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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>There is a major distinction between the 9<sup>th</sup> Circuit test, as set out in </span><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#212121;background:#FAFAFA'>Aalmuhammed</span></i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#212121;background:#FAFAFA'>, and Thompson v. Larson (2d Circuit) and Erickson v. trinity Theater (7<sup>th</sup> Circuit). The latter two tests look primarily to whether there was an independently copyrightable contribution and whether the parties intended that they be co-authors. The 9<sup>th</sup> Circuit added a prong examining who had control over the work, which consistently leads to outcomes favoring studios and other well-heeled parties. The other circuits do not focus on control. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Jessica R. Friedman <jrfriedman@litproplaw.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 18, 2024 5:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael D. Steger <msteger@steger-law.com>; 'For copyright practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.' <copyright@oppedahl-lists.com>; cmlaw@jps.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Copyright] Architectural Drawings. Etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'>It was first used in the 9<sup>th</sup> Circuit and then picked up by the Second Circuit in Childress v. Taylor (1991). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'>But I wouldn’t characterize it only that way. The test also prevents someone who was never thought to be a joint author from trying to squeeze in and get credit and money that were never contemplated for them. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'>For example, in Childress v. Taylor, Taylor asked Childress to write a play for her, to which she contributed exactly one line, and then in a dispute over the staging of the play, she suddenly claimed to be a joint author. In Thomson v. Larson, the dramaturg in Rent tried to claim joint authorship. Although Jonathan Larson died before the show opened, there was absolute no evidence that he had ever intended that she be a joint author. In the ensuing decades, there have been many other joint authorship cases with similar fact patterns.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Jessica R. Friedman</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>300 East 59 Street, Ste. 2406<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>New York, NY 10022</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Phone: 212-220-0900</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Cell: 917-647-1884</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>E-mail:</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue'> <u><a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com" title="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</span></a></u></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>URL: </span><u><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue'><a href="http://www.literarypropertylaw.com" title="http://www.literarypropertylaw.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.literarypropertylaw.com</span></a></span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#003366'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue'><img border=0 width=184 height=72 style='width:1.9166in;height:.75in' id="_x0000_i1030" src="cid:image001.png@01DA91B4.1B891380" alt="1479430908386_PastedImage"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=mail-editor-reference-message-container><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black'>Michael D. Steger <<a href="mailto:msteger@steger-law.com">msteger@steger-law.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 4:34 PM<br><b>To: </b>'For copyright practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.' <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a> <<a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Jessica R. Friedman <<a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com">jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [Copyright] Architectural Drawings. Etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>That depends on which Circuit you are in. The control test is primarily a creature of the 9<sup>th</sup> Circuit, as it can let the dominant party squeeze out others who thought they were contributing to a joint work. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Copyright <<a href="mailto:copyright-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jessica R. Friedman via Copyright<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 18, 2024 4:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> For copyright practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Jessica R. Friedman <<a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com">jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Copyright] Architectural Drawings. Etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'>P would be a joint author only if the dominant author -- if there is one -- intended that she be one. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Jessica R. Friedman</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Attorney at Law</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>300 East 59 Street, Ste. 2406</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>New York, NY 10022</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Phone: 212-220-0900</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>Cell: 917-647-1884</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>E-mail:</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue'> <u><a href="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com" title="mailto:jrfriedman@litproplaw.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>jrfriedman@litproplaw.com</span></a></u></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#003366'>URL: </span><u><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue'><a href="http://www.literarypropertylaw.com" title="http://www.literarypropertylaw.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.literarypropertylaw.com</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#003366'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:blue'><img border=0 width=184 height=72 style='width:1.9166in;height:.75in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01DA91B4.1B891380" alt="1479430908386_PastedImage"></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div id=mail-editor-reference-message-container><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black'>Copyright <<a href="mailto:copyright-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> on behalf of Cumbow, Bob via Copyright <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 4:20 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a> <<a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a>>, 'For copyright practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.' <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Cumbow, Bob <<a href="mailto:Robert.Cumbow@millernash.com">Robert.Cumbow@millernash.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Copyright] Architectural Drawings. Etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>If no work-for-hire agreement was operative, then the team project was likely a work of joint authorship, which means that everyone who contributed copyrightable subject matter to the finished product is a full owner of the copyright in the finished work, and free to exploit the work without the permission of the other joint authors, but must share equally with the other joint owners any compensation received from exploitation of the work. This can quickly become a complicated mess, which is why people who set out to create a work “as a team” should have a clear written agreement about copyright <u>before</u> pen is ever set to paper.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:8.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 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To visit the Miller Nash industry-focused blog overview page on our updated website: </span></i><i><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:remialcxesans;color:white'></span></i><i><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"template-jAt3TLdCEeunrQANOhMDEQ",serif;color:white'></span></i><i><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:zone-1;color:white'></span></i><i><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:zones-AQ;color:white'></span></i><i><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#033160'><a href="https://www.millernash.com/firm-news" target="_blank"><span style='color:#033160'>please click this link</span></a></span></u></i><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#767676'>. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a> <<a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 18, 2024 1:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Cumbow, Bob <<a href="mailto:Robert.Cumbow@millernash.com">Robert.Cumbow@millernash.com</a>>; 'For copyright practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.' <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Copyright] Architectural Drawings. Etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:yellow'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:red;background:white'>[EXTERNAL MESSAGE: This email originated from outside of the firm. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.]</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="59%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>My understanding of copyright law, “work for hire” does not apply to architectural drawings unless it was within scope of employment. Team was comprised only of independent contractors and there was no employment relationship or other agreement among them, including as to ownership. Joint owners are entitled to pro rata share of benefits derived by any owner.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Craig</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Cumbow, Bob <<a href="mailto:Robert.Cumbow@millernash.com">Robert.Cumbow@millernash.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 18, 2024 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> For copyright practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cmlaw@jps.net">cmlaw@jps.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Copyright] Architectural Drawings. Etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>One important question: When P created work as part of the team, was there a work-for-hire agreement, or an employment agreement containing a work-for-hire provision? If so, P does not own copyright in her contributions; but if not, P owns copyright, though she may be in a joint authorship situation with one or more other members of the team.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:8.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 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To visit the Miller Nash industry-focused blog overview page on our updated website: </span></i><i><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#033160'><a href="https://www.millernash.com/firm-news" target="_blank"><span style='color:#033160'>please click this link</span></a></span></u></i><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#767676'>. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:4.0pt 0in 6.0pt 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#595959'>‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑</span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:remialcxesans;color:white'></span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"template-LXNIL7dCEeunrQANOhMDEQ",serif;color:white'></span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:zone-1;color:white'></span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:zones-AQ;color:white'></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#595959'>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#595959'> This email message may contain confidential or privileged information. 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Etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:yellow'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:red;background:white'>[EXTERNAL MESSAGE: This email originated from outside of the firm. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.]</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="59%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Trying to figure out what a joint author (P) of architectural drawings can do to protect her rights. Assume P is part of a team who supplied a proposal including architectural drawings for a new building, of which P contributed. The team won the competition, but then several months ago P was cut out as to prize money and, of course, the much larger fees going forward to complete the project. Registration has not been applied for or determined (a prerequisite to file an infringement claim) and such registration I understand takes 6-7 months these days after application, with more speed (not sure how much quicker?) for an $800 special processing fee. It seems that statutory damages and fees are unavailable under copyright law (, but what of the use of the drawings going forward toward the completion of the building where construction has not yet commenced? Can actionable infringements going forward be expected? Theories appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Craig McLaughlin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Seal Beach, CA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>