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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Still doesn’t make sense. I write a book, people I don’t know buy the book, it’s published. I write a play, people I don’t know pay to see the play, but it remains unpublished.
I think this may have something to do with the book’s being a tangible medium and the play’s performance being ephemeral. But it strikes me as solid 19<sup>th</sup> century thinking—just like most of copyright law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Copyright] Publication of a Play for purposes of a copyright application<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">But if I write a play, and we perform the play for an audience, and I make copies of my play available for purchase in the lobby and 10 people I don't know buy copies, then that sounds a lot more
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0A2F41">Does the Copyright Compendium have anything to say on this question?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 1:06</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>For copyright practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>, Elizabeth Russell <<a href="mailto:beth@erklaw.com" target="_blank">beth@erklaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Nancy Prager <<a href="mailto:nancyprager@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nancyprager@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Copyright] Publication of a Play for purposes of a copyright application</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">Great question. Distributing the copies to the talent and production personnel should count but it would likely be considered a distribution to a limited audience. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">A <span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">publication</span> is
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right of further reproduction, distribution or sale.</span></em><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">” (emphasis added)</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Academy of Motion
Picture Arts and Sciences v. Creative House Promotions, Inc., 944 F.2d 1446, 19 U.S.P.Q.2d 1491 (9th Cir. 1991).</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 12:56:59 PM EDT, Elizabeth Russell <<a href="mailto:beth@erklaw.com" target="_blank">beth@erklaw.com</a>> wrote:
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">What about the distribution of printed scripts to production personnel? The rehearsal hall is at least a semi public place; the personnel are not a social circle; and the distribution
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">Elizabeth T Russell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A"> Copyright <<a href="mailto:copyright-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">copyright-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 18, 2024 12:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> for Copyright Practitioners <<a href="mailto:copyright@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">copyright@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nancy Prager <<a href="mailto:nancyprager@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nancyprager@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Copyright] Publication of a Play for purposes of a copyright application</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">Dear colleagues....<br>
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A client has a play in production. The iniital performance date is not the date of publication since public performance is not considered publication. So what is?
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Is a play considered unpublished until someone literally publishes the play (most likely through a licensing arrangement)? </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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If not, what is considered publication of a play?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A">I feel like I have dealt with this before and ended up advising the client to file as an unpublished work but that boggles my mind. <br>
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