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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'>I am so sick of the idiotic “indefinite” rejections, I don’t event know where to start. And, frankly, I don’t have a good answer regarding what to do with those. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'>Is it an AI that does that part of an OA? Since these rejections have become noticeably more idiotic, this is the explanation that comes to my mind. Because even the most sophisticated algorithm can’t process what something means (no AI can), and the question of whether something is definite or not arises from the meaning. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'>Maria<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>----------------------------------------</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Maria Eliseeva</span></i></b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'> </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Patentbar International </span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>1-617-332-5800(p)</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:maria@patentbar.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:blue'>maria@patentbar.com</span></a></span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:blue'><a href="http://www.patentbar.com/"><span style='color:blue'>www.patentbar.com</span></a></span></u></i><span style='color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> E-trademarks [mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Crane, Susan<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 05, 2023 7:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] idiotic office actions<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Adding to the list of idiotic office actions, now we need to teach EAs grammar, especially PTO grammar regarding commas versus semicolons.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I filed several applications with the following specs: Resort hotel, all-inclusive hotel, hotel and motel accommodation services.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Now the PTO and the Nice classification system have become picky in the last few years, and determined that “hotel services” could encompass services outside Class 43, such as concierge services, etc. so you must specify that they are hotel <i>accommodation</i> services. Fine. We did that. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>But just got a refusal that says “resort hotel” services are indefinite, and I need to amend the ID to “Resort hotel accommodation services, all-inclusive hotel, hotel and motel accommodation services..”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Please explain to me how “accommodation services” modifies all-inclusive hotel, hotel and motel, but not resort hotel?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>SMDH!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0072CE'>Susan L. Crane<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'>Group Vice President, Legal<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'>Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'>Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'>22 Sylvan Way<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'>Parsippany, NJ 07054<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'>O</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'> (973) 753-6455<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'>M</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'> (973) 879-3420<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#51534A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>This email message (including all attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. 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