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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I completely agree filing for the same design mark with and without a color claim is possible (and something I’ve done before).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">But that still begs the question – what additional legal protection is the registrant getting by way of a registration with a color claim that they don’t already
have by way of the registration without a color claim?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.hinckleyallen.com/people/alexander-p-montgomery"><b><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#777779;text-decoration:none">Alexander
P. Montgomery</span></b><span style="color:#777779;text-decoration:none"> </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.hinckleyallen.com/"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#777779;text-decoration:none">Hinckley
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p: 617-378-4366</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#E2231A"> | </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#777779"> f: 617-345-9020<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 9, 2023 1:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Edward Timberlake <ed@timberlakelaw.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] To Color Claim or Not To Color Claim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Who says it has to be one or the other?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Why not both?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Ed Timberlake </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><a href="https://clarity.fm/edtimberlake" target="_blank">Schedule a call on Clarity</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 1:18 PM Crane, Susan via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">One reason is if the mark is going to be used on exterior signage. It gives the brand owner greater leverage against
local zoning boards that don’t want the colors used, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Montgomery, Alexander P. via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 9, 2023 12:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> for trademark practitioners <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Montgomery, Alexander P. <<a href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] To Color Claim or Not To Color Claim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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benefit other than “your logo is a similar design and uses the same colors” (which is
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F4E79">I’ve always wondered whether there is a compelling legal reason to make a color claim in an application to register a logo. Is there
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F4E79">The flexibility of a registration without a color claim seems to far outweigh any benefits obtained by way of a registration with a
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