<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Reminds me of this gem, <a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98018711&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch">Serial No. #</a></span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=98018711&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch">98/018,711</a>.</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><img src="cid:ii_lormh1mb3" alt="image.png" width="94" height="94" style="margin-right: 0px;"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Cheers,</span><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 1:46 PM O'Connell Jr., Robert via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg2068135317845851290">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:green">I’ve been involved in litigation(s) where you had competitors with (more or less) similar names, but very different trade dress & color schemes for their retail outlets,
and that difference in color was a key factor in the likelihood of confusion argument. As a defendant making that argument, having registrations for the logo which claimed color bolstered that position.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:green">Those color-claimed registrations also help on the offensive side in helping deter other competitors in the same industry from adopting your color.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Montgomery, Alexander P. via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 9, 2023 1:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Montgomery, Alexander P. <<a href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] To Color Claim or Not To Color Claim<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I completely agree filing for the same design mark with and without a color claim is possible (and something I’ve done before).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">But that still begs the question – what additional legal protection is the registrant getting by way of a registration with a color claim that they don’t already
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.hinckleyallen.com/people/alexander-p-montgomery" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rgb(119,119,121);text-decoration:none">Alexander
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 9, 2023 1:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Edward Timberlake <<a href="mailto:ed@timberlakelaw.com" target="_blank">ed@timberlakelaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] To Color Claim or Not To Color Claim<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">Who says it has to be one or the other?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 1:18 PM Crane, Susan via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,114,206)">Susan L. Crane</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">22 Sylvan Way</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Montgomery, Alexander P. via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 9, 2023 12:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> for trademark practitioners <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Montgomery, Alexander P. <<a href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] To Color Claim or Not To Color Claim</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,78,121)">I’ve always wondered whether there is a compelling legal reason to make a color claim in an application to register a logo. Is there
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