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I don't think so. I have studied nunc pro tunc and I find it
confusing (it is the <a
href="https://propertyintangible.com/2016/12/more-on-what-nunc-pro-tunc-means/">most
visited page of my blog</a>, so I'm not the only one). But my rule
of thumb is that a nunc pro tunc is effective between parties but
not effective against third parties. Suppose I have a trip-and-fall
on some property. The property owner doesn't want the liability, so
transfers the property to their judgment-proof child, effective
before your accident. But the property owner doesn't get to avoid
the lawsuit that way.<br>
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In the same way, the legal reality is that the document was signed
by a non-owner. An agreement between two parties about the effective
date of the transfer doesn't change that reality at the time of
signing (and the unintentionally false statements made in it).<br>
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But I could be wrong.<br>
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Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/13/2023 10:09 PM, Orvis PC via
E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Can a nunc pro tunc assignment fix a failed attempt
to assign?
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<div>As you all know, a section 8 declaration of use must be
filed by an owner. What if party A thought they were the
owner? But, the 'assignment' was not effective to make party A
an owner. Then party A signs a section 8 declaration. The
Section 8 period has expired. </div>
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<div>Can a nunc pro tunc (post Section 8 filing) be effective to
meet the requirement that a renewal must be filed by an owner?</div>
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<div>MPEP 1604.07(a) <a
href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/current/TMEP-1600d1e670.html"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/current/TMEP-1600d1e670.html</a> <br>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">The
affidavit or declaration of use or excusable nonuse must be
filed by the owner of the registration. Filing by the owner
is a minimum requirement that must be met before the
expiration of the deadlines set forth in §8(a) of the Act, </span><b
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px"><a
href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TFSR/current#/current/sec-510834c1-3800-4410-8234-81085d283a9a.html"
target="_blank"
style="color:rgb(0,140,255);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">15 U.S.C. §1058(a)</a></b><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">, (i.e.,
during the sixth year after the date of registration or
publication under §12(c) of the Trademark Act, or within the
year before the end of every ten-year period after the date
of registration), or within the six-month grace period after
expiration of these deadlines. </span><b
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px"><a
href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TFSR/current#/current/r-2f312231-077f-4984-8e2d-4fc05b7df38c.html"
target="_blank"
style="color:rgb(0,140,255);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">37 C.F.R. §§2.160(a)</a></b><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">, </span><b
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px"><a
href="https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TFSR/current#/current/r-022fab1e-e151-4eb0-b6d2-7d5aa0a8e885.html"
target="_blank"
style="color:rgb(0,140,255);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">2.161(a)(1)</a></b><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">.</span><br>
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