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   <span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Instead of fighting with my accounting department to send a wire, I send it myself, charge my credit card, and then submit a reimbursement claim. It takes about a minute.</span>
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   <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Wise allows you to select the delivery of a dollar certain in most currencies. Wise calculates the wire fees and conversion fees, adds some convenience fee I think, and charges you the amount it says you will be charged.</span>
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   <br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Once you use it, you'll look at the others that pound on the desk about the impossibility of knowing the fees and conversions as silliness.</span>
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    <p>Nov 21, 2023 6:58:53 PM Scott Nielson via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com>:</p>
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     How does Wise help large firm accounting departments in the way you describe? As someone who has all those issues, especially the wire transfer fees, I'm interested in knowing how you avoid them.
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     <font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Orvis via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 21, 2023 4:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Orvis <orvispc@gmail.com>; Dineen Wasylik <dineen@wasylik.net>; For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentpractice] [E-trademarks] Good, Inexpensire service for bank wire payments</font>
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      <span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Wise is also great for those at large firms who's accounting department says they cannot figure out how to deliver a dollar certain to a recipient and then tells you that you need to figure out conversions and wire transfer fees along the way. </span>
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       <p style="margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0">Nov 21, 2023 6:09:23 PM Richard Schafer via Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com>:</p>
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         <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in; font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0"><b>From:</b> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dineen Wasylik via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 21, 2023 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Dineen Wasylik <dineen@wasylik.net>; patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Good, Inexpensire service for bank wire payments</p>
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          <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin:0in; font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0">See <br><a href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/eventually-every-patent-and-trademark-firm-will-have-a-transferwise-account/" originalsrc="https://blog.oppedahl.com/eventually-every-patent-and-trademark-firm-will-have-a-transferwise-account/" shash="WhiiyD66lVhKzRFGpLx0krvGZJKYWuNmGq+D1HsGRUWZo+pu05nzigV3MuLeZlcPBqFbHUqY7Mut3Gy8495rakcbh0xdcf16p5wuuGpJDasEwFJ2Hlfg5sTFK96496dVvbKQQec1FzQhGXyC6QrRGHh6AJ7FcxOxikpTNAn4vcg=" target="_blank">https://blog.oppedahl.com/eventually-every-patent-and-trademark-firm-will-have-a-transferwise-account/</a><br><br>
            On 11/20/2023 10:53 PM, voyer--- via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
            > A year or maybe more ago, there was elist discussion of a good, inexpensive service for bank wire services.<br>
            > At least internationally, perhaps also domestic.  My saved copy is now hiding from me.<br>
            > Would appreciate contact info for that service, and it is stlil a good recommendation. Thanks,<br>
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