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    <p>can you quote the overall results?  You were charged a total of
      some number of USD, and the Canadian firm received how many CAD?</p>
    <p>I'd like to see what it would have cost to do the same thing in
      Wise.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/22/2023 4:23 PM, Jim Larsen via
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I just
            started using XE.com for U.S.->foreign transfers.  No
            (separate) wire fee.  Indeed, the entire cost of the
            transaction is built into the exchange rate.  Example: I
            recently sent payment to a Canadian firm.  Spot rate was </span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Noto Sans",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">1
            USD = 1.3405 CAD.  My calculations suggest this is about
            2.9% worse than public spot FX price (average of about 1.38
            that day).  So, similar to credit card fees for most
            services for domestic transactions.  Customer service (on my
            admittedly low volume so far) was excellent.  I had several
            calls setting things up and they were very helpful.</span><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
                regards,<br>
                 <br>
                -Jim<br>
                 <br>
                James C. Larsen<br>
                Attorney<br>
                Larsen IP PLLC<br>
                p: 425.298.6846<br>
                e: <a href="mailto:jim@Larsen-IP.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">jim@Larsen-IP.com</span></a><br>
                w. <a href="http://www.Larsen-IP.com"
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                    style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                  </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">E-trademarks
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a> on
                  behalf of Lara Pearson via E-trademarks
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
                  <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 12:46 PM<br>
                  <b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is not
                  for laypersons to seek legal advice.
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
                  <b>Cc: </b>Lara Pearson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lara@brandgeek.net"><lara@brandgeek.net></a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Good, Inexpensire
                  service for bank wire payments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> I
                    pay using a Corp Platinum Amex as often as possible
                    b/t there are no foreign transaction fees, but not
                    all firms take CCs or Amex. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">WISE
                    is not available in Nevada. My bank makes me go in
                    to make a foreign wire & charges $30/per.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    runners-up to Wise?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                            style="color:#222222">] (<a
href="https://namedrop.io/larapearson" target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">Hear
                                              how I say my name</a>)</span></span><span
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                                          Office of Lara Pearson Ltd,
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On
                    Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 3:09 PM Richard Schafer via
                    E-trademarks <<a
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                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          has been a godsend for my solo practice.
                          Highly recommended.</span><span
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                          <b>Richard A. Schafer | Schafer IP Law</b></span><span
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                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dineen Wasylik via
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                            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 21, 2023
                            11:14 AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This
                            is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
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                            <b>Cc:</b> Dineen Wasylik <<a
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                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Good,
                            Inexpensire service for bank wire payments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            style="font-size:11.0pt">I agree with Carlk,
                            though I think they now call it just "wise"
                            but
                            <a href="http://wise.com" target="_blank"
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                            what I have based on recommendations from
                            other practitioners.  It is easy and much
                            less expensive than bank-based wires.  It
                            handles currency conversion much better than
                            my bank folks did, too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="font-size:11.0pt">Dineen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="font-size:11.0pt">On Tue, Nov 21,
                              2023 at 5:58 AM Carl Oppedahl via
                              E-trademarks <<a
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                              style="font-size:11.0pt">See
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                              <a
href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/eventually-every-patent-and-trademark-firm-will-have-a-transferwise-account/"
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                              On 11/20/2023 10:53 PM, voyer--- via
                              E-trademarks wrote:<br>
                              > A year or maybe more ago, there was
                              elist discussion of a good, inexpensive
                              service for bank wire services.<br>
                              > At least internationally, perhaps
                              also domestic.  My saved copy is now
                              hiding from me.<br>
                              > Would appreciate contact info for
                              that service, and it is stlil a good
                              recommendation. Thanks,<br>
                              ><br>
                              > Daniel Kegan *  847-452-2599<br>
                              > Baron Harris Healey, Of Counsel<br>
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