<div dir="ltr">Thanks Richard<div><br></div><div>You are in basic search right?</div><div><br></div><div>And what is the search term you use so that you ONLY get BIG JOHN marks instead of marks containing both those names?</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:50 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-1407244482740858993"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-1407244482740858993WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Susan Crane found the glitch.  <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">You must <u>not</u> limit the search to “Wordmark”.   You can only search in “Search All”.    Try it.   You get vastly different results.  <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> on behalf of "Renee.Kraft via E-trademarks" <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:37 PM<br><b>To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"Renee.Kraft" <<a href="mailto:Renee.Kraft@target.com" target="_blank">Renee.Kraft@target.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I also get 95 results with “big AND john” so at least there’s consistency! <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Maybe try closing out of the current search session and starting a new one. You may have accidentally clicked something along the way that’s causing the issue. I sound like tech support….have you tried rebooting? </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:rgb(31,73,125)">J</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Crane, Susan via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2023 4:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Crane, Susan <<a href="mailto:susan.crane@wyndham.com" target="_blank">susan.crane@wyndham.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Odd, when I search “big john” in quotes, I get 95 results for marks consisting of Big John<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,114,206)">Susan L. Crane<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">Group Vice President, Legal<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">22 Sylvan Way<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">Parsippany, NJ 07054<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">O</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)"> (973) 753-6455<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)">M</span></b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)"> (973) 879-3420<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Susan.Crane@wyndham.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,99,193)">Susan.Crane@wyndham.com</span></a><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(81,83,74)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Morris via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2023 5:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt">><br><b>Cc:</b> Richard Morris <</span><a href="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">richard@4trademark.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt">><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark. I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example. But when I search for “BIG JOHN” as two words I get hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or just the term BIG. I only want to retrieve <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark.  <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example.   But when I search for “BIG JOHN” as two words I get hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or just the term BIG.  <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I only want to retrieve trademarks that have both words.  <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Please help. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Richard<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">E-trademarks <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">> on behalf of Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br><b>Reply-To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:09 PM<br><b>To: </b>"Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks" <</span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br><b>Cc: </b>Janet Satterthwaite <</span><a href="mailto:jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br><b>Subject: </b>[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">to post a big WHINE about the new search function.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I can't figure out how to search by attorney of record or disclaimers, to name a couple of whines. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Then when you click on a hit, it takes you to TSDR instead of TESS<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">There are so many more whines.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">PTO<span class="m_-1407244482740858993hyphen">—</span>are you lurking? THIS IS VERY BAD.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-1407244482740858993Signature"><p><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(102,102,153)">Janet F. Satterthwaite</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:gray">|</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(153,153,153)">Partner/ Chair, Trademark Practice|Potomac Law Group, PLLC</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(124,134,154);background:white">1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 1025 </span><span style="color:rgb(124,134,154)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(124,134,154);background:white">Washington, D.C. 20006</span><span style="color:rgb(36,36,36)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica">jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:gray">|</span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.potomaclaw.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!nAKydtstvQnhYlQdKw2Y2f7-hZlmh1jHnvsqDVxCCdW2cmPydlqZ-nPTd4kNkqM2seLxS9Ksd0nwIhzsz2wLcgT2bzT1Kh0$" title="https://www.potomaclaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica">www.potomaclaw.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.potomaclaw.com/professionals-janet-f-satterthwaite__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!nAKydtstvQnhYlQdKw2Y2f7-hZlmh1jHnvsqDVxCCdW2cmPydlqZ-nPTd4kNkqM2seLxS9Ksd0nwIhzsz2wLcgT2HlZBZn4$" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background:white">https://www.potomaclaw.com/professionals-janet-f-satterthwaite</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black"> <img border="0" width="118" height="116" style="width: 1.2291in; height: 1.2083in;" id="m_-1407244482740858993Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:ii_18c2275893b4ce8e91">  </span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><img border="0" width="424" style="width: 4.4166in;" id="m_-1407244482740858993_x0000_i1025" src="https://ukwest1-mediap.svc.ms/transform/thumbnail?provider=spo&inputFormat=png&cs=fFNQTw&docid=https://globebpcrm.sharepoint.com:443/_api/v2.0/drives/b!TQZR2-2SPE2ijySca0RSk9GWpi3pTptJqpI2GM317RV0fn8ZfIBsSZ9rpY5T6aYk/items/0154SFYISYVY4G5S2PLJG32IIOCE4C4S"></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">This e-mail and any attachments may contain information that is private, confidential, and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments</span></i><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">-- E-trademarks mailing list </span><a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!nAKydtstvQnhYlQdKw2Y2f7-hZlmh1jHnvsqDVxCCdW2cmPydlqZ-nPTd4kNkqM2seLxS9Ksd0nwIhzsz2wLcgT2aQZYiLo$" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">This email message (including all attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Unless otherwise indicated in the body of this email, nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature and this transmission cannot be used to form, document, or authenticate a contract. Wyndham Hotels and Resorts and/or its affiliates may monitor all incoming and outgoing email communications in the United States, including the content of emails and attachments, for security, legal compliance, training, quality assurance and other purposes. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">-- E-trademarks mailing list <a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a> <a href="http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
-- <br>
E-trademarks mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<a href="http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
</div></blockquote></div>