<div dir="ltr">I'm sure Dale meant "I think I might try capturing the screenshot of the TSDR page using my Fireshot(TM)-branded software..."<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Tim Ackermann</div><div style="font-size:small">The Ackermann Law Firm</div><p><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">E:  <a href="mailto:tim@ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank">tim@ackermannlaw.com</a></span><br><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">P:  817.305.0690</span><br>
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<span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">     Grapevine TX 76051</span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 1:01 PM Jaclyn Ionin via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)">what is fireshotting? is that something that lets you screenshot multiple tabs at once?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(68,68,68)"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><table style="direction:ltr;border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr><td><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="width:100%;padding:0px 8px;line-height:normal"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:Arial"><img style="height: 57px;" src="https://img.dlvr.ws/5551579829764096/4527378406703104/signoff.gif?ck=1639765451.17" height="57"></td></tr></tbody></table><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="line-height:0;height:16px;max-width:600px"></td></tr></tbody></table><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:Arial;line-height:1.25;padding-bottom:10px;color:rgb(0,0,0);width:100%"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:0.01px 18px 0.01px 0.01px"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:141px"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0.01px"><a href="https://www.ioninlaw.com/" style="display:block" target="_blank"><img src="https://img.dlvr.ws/5551579829764096/7f63efe7-8ece-47ed-8da4-a2ee0ced869a.png" height="141" width="141" style="width: 141px; vertical-align: initial; border-radius: 50%; display: block; height: 141px;"></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td><td valign="top" style="padding:0.01px;width:100%"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:Arial;width:100%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0.01px;line-height:0"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:100%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0.01px;width:100%;line-height:0" width="100%"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:100%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0.01px;line-height:17px"><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(226,135,138);font-size:14px;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">JACLYN IONIN, ESQ.</span><br><span style="font-size:12px;letter-spacing:0px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:Arial;text-transform:initial">Owner, Principal Attorney,</span> <span style="font-size:12px;letter-spacing:0px;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:Arial;text-transform:initial">Ionin Law</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td><td style="vertical-align:bottom;padding:0px 0px 1px 50px;line-height:0" valign="bottom"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="right" style="border-collapse:collapse;float:right;width:100%;font-family:Arial"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0.01px"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td align="left" style="padding-right:6px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/ioninlaw" target="_blank"><img width="24" height="24" src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/facebook/3b5998/48/circle/background.png" style="float: left; border: none;" border="0"></a></td><td align="left" style="padding-right:6px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ioninlaw/" target="_blank"><img width="24" height="24" src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/instagram/E4405F/48/circle/background.png" style="float: left; border: none;" border="0"></a></td><td align="left" style="padding-right:6px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ioninlaw/" target="_blank"><img width="24" height="24" src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/linkedin/0077b5/48/circle/background.png" style="float: left; border: none;" border="0"></a></td><td align="left" style="padding-right:6px;text-align:center;padding-top:0px"><a href="https://calendly.com/ioninlaw" target="_blank"><img width="24" height="24" src="https://cdn.gifo.wisestamp.com/social/custom/https%3A%2F%2Fd36urhup7zbd7q.cloudfront.net%2F5551579829764096%2F3eb0ecba-9afd-4014-a198-ff5de58b5353.png/24/circle.png" style="float: left; border: none;" border="0"></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding:0.01px;line-height:0"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="border-collapse:collapse;width:100%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0.1px;height:15px;font-s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<b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 4, 2023 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Janet Satterthwaite <<a href="mailto:jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank">jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">I seem to recall that they  won’t look at them unless you attach them,  but  nb the reg.  certificate  is not as good as TESS bc it doesn’t show whether it’s live or dead. 
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">On Dec 4, 2023, at 12:05 PM, Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Correct me if I’m wrong, buttheoretically, doesn’t the mere mention of registration numbers make those registrations a matter of record?  And we all just attached the registration certificates
 and/or TESS status as a convenience for the EA? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Clarkin, Cheryl via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 4, 2023 11:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Clarkin, Cheryl <<a href="mailto:CClarkin@apslaw.com" target="_blank">CClarkin@apslaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">I need to file a response today with third-party registrations.  If the TESS screen is no longer available, what do I submit?  TSDR screen for each one?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 1, 2023 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">For the USPTO, this will also make the TTAB's job more difficult.  One used to be able to introduce pleaded and third party registrations into evidence by attaching the easy-to-read TESS screen
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 3:03 PM Ignacio, Vanessa A. via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">The USPTO should be somewhat ashamed of itself for solely redesigning this system for itself, i.e. to suit its examiners. Sure, they
 have their jobs to do. But rolling out a new search system that is less agile in some respects, that will take me and my team MORE TIME to compile the same information as before is unconscionable. Examiners do not need to be concerned with billing their time
 and devising fee structures that provide value to clients while still allow some breathing room to make doing this work worthwhile for those of us in private practice. With all the pressure to be “more efficient” in the IP space, removing the useful TESS summary
 screen is an unwelcome move, one that is tone deaf to the needs of the USPTO’s paying customers.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Reynolds via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 1, 2023 2:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>; Julia Anne Matheson
 <<a href="mailto:jmatheson@potomaclaw.com" title="mailto:jmatheson@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank">jmatheson@potomaclaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Robert Reynolds <<a href="mailto:rreynolds@kandrip.com" title="mailto:rreynolds@kandrip.com" target="_blank">rreynolds@kandrip.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">The good news is that the USPTO is aware of how valuable the TESS summary screens were. I saw this brought up in each of the USPTO-led
 training sessions I attended, and the speakers acknowledged the same. I’m hopeful that it returns.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>carla calcagno via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 1, 2023 1:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Julia Anne Matheson <<a href="mailto:jmatheson@potomaclaw.com" title="mailto:jmatheson@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank">jmatheson@potomaclaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> carla calcagno <<a href="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" title="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" target="_blank">cccalcagno@gmail.com</a>>; For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Agreed! All that information, including first use dates, was so helpful!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:51 PM Julia Anne Matheson <<a href="mailto:jmatheson@potomaclaw.com" title="mailto:jmatheson@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank">jmatheson@potomaclaw.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">All –</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">My biggest WHINE to the PTO is that the single page that we used to get in TESS that shows basis, app no, reg. no, full
 goods/services, status, etc.  is not gone – forcing you to go into TARR (which is a much less agile system) and into each category.  It is making what used to be a very simple search process
<u>so much more time intensive</u> and frustrating.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Please, PTO lurkers, can you bring BACK the overview search page?  To not be able to see this information at a glance is
 incredibly frustrating.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Julia</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>carla calcagno via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2023 6:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Morris <<a href="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" title="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" target="_blank">richard@4trademark.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> carla calcagno <<a href="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" title="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" target="_blank">cccalcagno@gmail.com</a>>; For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US">External email, do not click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender’s full email address and expect the attachments.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Thanks Richard
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> But at the bottom of the results page, I get weird marks like "Brappers" and "Heimlich Helper", because they are picking up corporate
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">This doesn't matter too much here, as there so few results, but I can imagine a case where the mark is weak and the Search All will get
 you MANY results.  If anyone at the USPTO is monitoring this,  it would be great if they could post on their help page an answer to this. Or, does the PTO have a place where one can send  questions that can then be added to the Help page  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:07 PM Richard Morris <<a href="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" title="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" target="_blank">richard@4trademark.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Here is the glitch. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">If you search “big john” under
<b>Wordmark</b> search you get 8,929 hits.  </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">If you search “big john” under
<b>Search by all</b> then you get 21 hits.  </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">carla calcagno <<a href="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" title="mailto:cccalcagno@gmail.com" target="_blank">cccalcagno@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Richard Morris <<a href="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" title="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" target="_blank">richard@4trademark.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">Thanks Richard<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">You are in basic search right?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">And what is the search term you use so that you ONLY get BIG JOHN marks instead of marks containing both those names?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:50 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Susan Crane found the glitch.  </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">You must
<u>not</u> limit the search to “Wordmark”.   You can only search in “Search All”.    Try it.   You get vastly different results. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> on
 behalf of "Renee.Kraft via E-trademarks" <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Renee.Kraft" <<a href="mailto:Renee.Kraft@target.com" title="mailto:Renee.Kraft@target.com" target="_blank">Renee.Kraft@target.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I also get 95 results with “big AND john” so at least there’s consistency!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Maybe try closing out of the current search session and starting a new one. You may have accidentally clicked something
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Crane, Susan via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2023 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Crane, Susan <<a href="mailto:susan.crane@wyndham.com" title="mailto:susan.crane@wyndham.com" target="_blank">susan.crane@wyndham.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Odd, when I search “big john” in quotes, I get 95 results for marks consisting of Big John</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,114,206)">Susan L. Crane</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Morris via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2023 5:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Richard Morris <<a href="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" title="mailto:richard@4trademark.com" target="_blank">richard@4trademark.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Let me be the first...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:1pt;color:white">I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark. I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example. But when I search for “BIG
 JOHN” as two words I get hundreds of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or just the term BIG. I only want to retrieve
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I would like to know how to search for a two-word mark. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I can search for “BIGJOHN” for example.   But when I search for “BIG JOHN” as two words I get hundreds
 of trademarks for just the term JOHN and or just the term BIG.  </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I only want to retrieve trademarks that have both words. 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thanks</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">E-trademarks <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">>
 on behalf of Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks" <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" title="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Janet Satterthwaite <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><a href="mailto:jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com" title="mailto:jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12pt">jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[E-trademarks] Let me be the first...</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">to post a big WHINE about the new search function.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I can't figure out how to search by attorney of record or disclaimers, to name a couple of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Then when you click on a hit, it takes you to TSDR instead of TESS</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">There are so many more whines.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">PTO<span>—</span>are
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