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New Search is a total dumpster fire. The few handouts the PTO distributed are woefully inadequate. Through trial and error I finally figured out how to combine GS terms, but it will not reliably build sets or download search history. I thought this was a
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This is really sad. They've taken a very reliable and powerful free search tool and destroyed it. There could not have been any serious beta testing on this.</div>
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My only consolation is that, unless the examining attorneys are using something completely different, they are in the same boat and should be howling!</div>
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Looks like it's back to private search. I've heard TKO is pretty good. I just hate to charge clients for any private search when for 23 years we had a great "free" search that worked.</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] New Search System: used-based field and combining searches?</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Colleagues, sorry if this has been discussed. I searched the list but didn’t find an answer.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">(I so deeply hate this new search tool, why, just why change something that has worked and users have gotten used to).</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">I am working on yet another non-relatedness of goods response. I need to do search #1 for all marks for goods #1 and search #2 for all marks in goods #2, then I need to find the intersection of the two sets.
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</span></span></span><span style="color:#002060">I cannot figure out how to limit search #1 and Search #2 to used-based (1(a)) marks. It used to be easy.</span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="color:#002060">I cannot figure out where the search history is in order to combine, say Search 1 and Search 4. Am I supposed to remember which search was which number??</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">I didn’t find a decent tutorial or a help tool on the new search page. I might have missed it in the overall resentment of being forced into this new feature.</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Kadden via E-trademarks<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The problem may be that you are trying to combine sets with the drop-down box set to "Search by field tag." When I changed the drop-down box setting to "Search by all," after searching by
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">A better Help page is badly needed.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 6:00 PM Charles Luce via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:Aptos; color:black">Among the other bugs, an attempt to combine search results 7 and 9 using this per the "help" screen:</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:Aptos; color:black">7 AND 9</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:Aptos; color:black">only prompts one that a field code is missing.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:Aptos; color:black">MAJOR bug if we cannot combine sets.</span></p>
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