<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">It really seems like the stupidest change.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Cheers,</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></span><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:58 PM Martin, Winfield B. (Perkins Coie) via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg4421362151144369620">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This is a small gripe among many more significant ones, but it’s driving me nuts that they changed the terminology for L/D searching that we all used for years and years. Why?
 Just to ensure that none of our intuitions would stay useful?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Win Martin</span></b><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(117,120,123)"> |
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(117,120,123)">Seattle, WA 98101-3099<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(117,120,123)">D. +1.206.359.3788<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maria Eliseeva via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 04, 2023 7:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.' <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Maria Eliseeva <<a href="mailto:maria@patentbar.com" target="_blank">maria@patentbar.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] selecting live/dead in search<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Yes, that worked for me today. It used to be LD:live that we sued for many years, I tried using it today and kept getting dead marks. I did eventually get to the manual to see that now for the reasons that escape
 me the field should be LD:true. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Maria Eliseeva<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> E-trademarks [<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jacob Fritz via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 04, 2023 9:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jacob Fritz <<a href="mailto:jcbfritz2@gmail.com" target="_blank">jcbfritz2@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] selecting live/dead in search<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe that, since you are now using fields tags, you have to use
<span style="background:yellow">LD:true</span> instead of the checkboxes.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jake<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 8:14 PM mary harris via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Using expert (for me, currently a misnomer) mode, I did a search for a field tag (CM) and one class.  Once the results came up, I tried at that point to un-check dead marks but it's
 greyed out.  So is that something that you have to do prior to hitting the search command icon?  It seems to me that you should be able to look at all the results and THEN narrow them with the toggle switches.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I am so confused!!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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