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And that's easier than CM:(solver solvers)?<br>
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Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville Street<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/5/2023 2:36 PM, Ron Kadden via
E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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problem with CM2 is that it's case sensitive. I think regex
is safer for searching plurals.</div>
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I was not able to find plurals options by searching
"plurals". </div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">No
you don't.</div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Field
tag CM2 (among others) catches plurals:</div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">CM:digital
AND CM2:solver<br>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Search
Field: CM2 </div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(Enhanced
combined mark - Combines word, pseudo mark, and
translation fields with stemming and plurals)</div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">The
search field options are pretty powerful, and can
themselves be searched.</div>
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<div style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(Just
enter "plurals" into the search bar for search fields
and a variety of options appear.)</div>
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href="https://www.nclawspecialists.gov/for-the-public/find-a-board-certified-specialist/results/detail/?id=29473"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Board Certified Specialist in
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at
3:08 PM Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Another fun one for plurals:
<div>In "Expert" the first returns one result; the
other returns zero results. <br>
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<div>If in "Basic" it's 12 and 4 results, and they
do not overlap.</div>
<div>Thus, it appears that the system no longer does
any plural-matching for you. </div>
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<div>So, now, if you want to capture plurals, you
have to use regex, such as this: <b>CM:digital
AND CM:/solver[es]{0,2}/</b></div>
<div>So user-friendly!</div>
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style="box-sizing:border-box;text-align:-webkit-match-parent;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-top-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:inherit;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;border-right-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;padding:0.5rem;vertical-align:bottom">String
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style="box-sizing:border-box;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-top-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:inherit;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;border-right-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;padding:0.5rem;vertical-align:top">Words
that don’t end in y</td>
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style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:"Roboto Mono Web","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono",Consolas,Courier,monospace;font-size:14px">[es]{0,2}</code></td>
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style="box-sizing:border-box;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-top-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:inherit;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;border-right-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;padding:0.5rem;vertical-align:top"><code
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:"Roboto Mono Web","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono",Consolas,Courier,monospace;font-size:14px">/tomato[es]{0,2}/</code> matches
tomato, tomatoe, tomatos, tomatoes</td>
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that end in y</td>
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style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:"Roboto Mono Web","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono",Consolas,Courier,monospace;font-size:14px">[yies]{1,4}</code></td>
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style="box-sizing:border-box;border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-top-style:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:inherit;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-color:inherit;border-right-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;padding:0.5rem;vertical-align:top"><code
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:"Roboto Mono Web","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono",Consolas,Courier,monospace;font-size:14px">/januar[yies]{1,4}/</code> matches
January, januaries<br
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<code
style="box-sizing:border-box;font-family:"Roboto Mono Web","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono",Consolas,Courier,monospace;font-size:14px">/saturda[yies]{1,4}/</code> matches
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Ackermann</div>
<div style="font-size:small">The
Ackermann Law Firm</div>
<p><font size="1"
face="verdana, sans-serif"><span
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">E:
<a
href="mailto:tim@ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tim@ackermannlaw.com</a></span><br>
<span
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">P:
817.305.0690</span><br>
<span
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">F:
214.453.0810</span><br>
<span
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">W:
<a
href="http://ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ackermannlaw.com</a></span><br>
<span
style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">O:
1701 W. Northwest Hwy.
Ste. 100</span><br>
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Grapevine TX 76051</span></font></p>
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at 4:26 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I
would like to know how to search for a
two-word mark. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I
can search for “BIGJOHN” for example.
But when I search for “BIG JOHN” as two
words I get hundreds of trademarks for
just the term JOHN and or just the term
BIG. </span></p>
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style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I
only want to retrieve trademarks that have
both words. </span></p>
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style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Please
help. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Thanks</span></p>
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on behalf of Janet Satterthwaite via
E-trademarks <<a
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<b>Reply-To: </b>"For trademark
practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice." <<a
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, November 30,
2023 at 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Jessica R. Friedman via
E-trademarks" <<a
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<b>Cc: </b>Janet Satterthwaite <<a
href="mailto:jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[E-trademarks] Let me
be the first...</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">to post
a big WHINE about the new search
function.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I can't
figure out how to search by attorney of
record or disclaimers, to name a couple
of whines. </span></p>
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when you click on a hit, it takes you to
TSDR instead of TESS</span></p>
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are so many more whines.</span></p>
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you lurking? THIS IS VERY BAD.</span></p>
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<p><b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(102,102,153)">Janet
F. Satterthwaite</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:gray">|</span><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(153,153,153)">Partner/
Chair, Trademark Practice|Potomac Law
Group, PLLC</span><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(124,134,154);background:white">1717
Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 1025 </span><span
style="color:rgb(36,36,36)"></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(124,134,154);background:white">Washington,
D.C. 20006</span><span
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