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<div><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Where are they getting the phone numbers?</span></div>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">We always tell clients NOT to put a phone number when they sign declarations, to avoid just this kind of problem.</span></div>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Did your clients who are getting the calls put their numbers in the filing? Or are the scammers finding them some other way?</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(102, 102, 153);"><b>Janet F. Satterthwaite</b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(128, 128, 128);">|</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">Partner/ Chair, Trademark
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Spam caller</font>
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<div>Hi Diane, </div>
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<div dir="auto">I know a trademark applicant that this happened to last week. </div>
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<div dir="auto">The caller spoofed the USPTO's phone number and claimed that the $250 application fee needed to be paid. </div>
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<div dir="auto">He gave the caller his credit card number and the last 4 digits of his social security number. </div>
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<div dir="auto">The FBI should launch an investigation into this scam operator.</div>
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<div dir="auto">And the USPTO should start issuing simple payment receipts.<br>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">David Michaels, J.D., B.Eng.(Mech), CHRM<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 6:37 p.m. dbmelnick--- via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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A client just advised me that she received a call from someone claiming to<br>
be the USPTO, asking her to pay a fee online to complete the registration.<br>
He was calling from a spoofed version of 571-272-6500, which is a USPTO<br>
phone number.<br>
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Calling the USPTO about this seems futile, but I do think that this is<br>
beyond what we have seen before and I am considering further action.<br>
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Diane <br>
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