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If you scroll down to the bottom, not all forms are affected and in
particular applications can still be saved. It's other forms that
can't.<br>
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Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville Street<br>
Unit 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
(919) 800-8033<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.chesteklegal.com">www.chesteklegal.com</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/12/2023 10:08 AM, Winston, Laura
via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are still having the problem here – just
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Laura J.<span
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Winston <br>
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Practice Group Chair, Intellectual Property Practice<br>
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590 Madison Ave</td>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg William via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2023 12:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
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<b>Cc:</b> Greg William <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:greg@danielsonlegal.com"><greg@danielsonlegal.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Save Form Feature May Be
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<p class="MsoNormal">Indeed - I was just able to save two
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 12:27 PM Edward
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">I was
able to save a filing a few minutes ago (whereas
earlier today the "Save Form" button was not even
visible).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><a
href="https://www.nclawspecialists.gov/for-the-public/find-a-board-certified-specialist/results/detail/?id=29473"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Board Certified Specialist in
Trademark Law</a></span></i><span
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:55 AM
Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I'd guess that not one of the USPTO developers
managing this particular "update" to the TEAS
software has ever in his or her life actually used
any of the TEAS forms involved here, in the actual
service of a real client.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'd guess that the same may be said for whatever
beltway bandit contractor is being "managed"
(using the term loosely ) by the USPTO developers.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'd guess that if you were to put any of these
people on the spot, their stammered answer would
be that so far as they knew, the "saved
submission" feature was sort of a "nice to have"
thing but not actually really important.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Yesterday I received instructions from foreign
counsel to carry out a trademark renewal. The
fact pattern is complicated and there are layers
of communication involved. I am not, for
example, in direct communication with the
underlying client. The TM registration has five
trademark classes in it. The USPTO's proclivity
to do "audits" on foreign renewals that have lots
of semicolons in the ID means that we have no
choice but to worry and worry about the many
would-be specimens of use. It is almost certain
that two or three or four versions of the would-be
TEAS submission will need to be generated and
reviewed before the underlying client reaches a
confidence level as to everything about what will
be contained and said in the renewal. There are
time zones involved so that every iteration will
include a loss of at least a 24-hour cycle. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Preparing this TEAS submission, and checking its
correctness, took me around an hour.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>In a normal TEAS workflow, I would save the
submission each time, prior to shipping the "click
here" link off to foreign counsel. Then the next
day when I hear back about the need to make some
adjustment to the filing package, I need merely
reload the submission file and make the
adjustment, and the time required would be just a
few minutes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Same thing a day after that when yet another
review cycle has happened and it turns out that
yet another adjustment is needed. Maybe against
all odds the client managed to snap one last
photograph and now there is one more specimen of
use to add to the many specimens of use that had
already been uploaded to the submission.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>But instead of "one hour on the first day plus
ten minutes a day later plus another ten minutes a
day later", this task for this client is going to
suck up maybe three hours of my time. All
because the saved-submission feature has been
broken for several days now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>More importantly, every time I have to start from
a blank form, constructing the renewal package all
over again, I have to check the correctness of it
from the top to the bottom. Suppose that on the
second try or the third try, I inadvertently get
it a little bit wrong on which goods from class 10
are to be canceled and which are to be retained.
If eventually that submission is the one that gets
submitted and it turns out I canceled something
that was not supposed to be canceled, it is
impossible to get that item of goods back into the
case. There is an enormous malpractice risk every
time that I start over again from a blank form.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>My point here being that the USPTO developers
probably have no clue, none at all, about how
wrong they are if they use "nice to have but not
really super important to have" as their way of
characterizing the saved-submission feature.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/12/2023 7:40 AM,
Richard Schafer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D">Still
broken today after three days of outage.
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D">This
is significant egg-on-face territory for the
PTO and reinforces the opinion that the
PTO’s IT department and their contractors
are incompetent. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D">Best
regards,<br>
<b>Richard A. Schafer | Schafer IP Law</b></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D">P.O.
Box 230081 | Houston, TX 77223<br>
M: 832.283.6564 | <a
href="mailto:richard@schafer-ip.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#0563C1">richard@schafer-ip.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
E-trademarks
<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via
E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 12, 2023
1:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners.
This is not for laypersons to seek legal
advice.
<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a
href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Thanks
for the six hours warning on Friday
evening that I can't save my draft form...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thank you for posting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 12/11/2023
12:35 PM, Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Evidently,
this is still broken -- you cannot
save many of the TEAS forms. No ETA on
repair.
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="https://www.uspto.gov/blog/ebiz/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.uspto.gov/blog/ebiz/</a><br
clear="all">
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">The Ackermann Law Firm</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">E: <a
href="mailto:tim@ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tim@ackermannlaw.com</a><br>
P: 817.305.0690<br>
F: 214.453.0810<br>
W: <a
href="http://ackermannlaw.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
ackermannlaw.com</a><br>
O: 1701 W. Northwest
Hwy. Ste. 100<br>
Grapevine TX
76051</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Sat, Dec
9, 2023 at 3:10 PM Tim Ackermann <<a
href="mailto:tim@ackermannlaw.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tim@ackermannlaw.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B">Posted
at </span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#444444"><a
href="https://www.uspto.gov/blog/ebiz/entry/planned-events941"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><b><span
style="color:#005EA2">06:24PM
Dec 08, 2023</span></b></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B"> in Planned
Events | </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#444444">Friday
Dec 08, 2023</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:22.5pt"><a
name="m_-7893622522466151191_m_699863568200540" moz-do-not-send="true"></a><span
style="font-size:17.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#333333">Planned
Events</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.75pt;box-sizing:border-box">
<b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B">Trademark
Electronic Application System
(TEAS) Save Feature
Temporarily Disabled on Some
Forms</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B"> <br>
The USPTO will be updating the
TEAS forms below which requires
us to disable the save feature
on those forms
<b>beginning at 12:01 a.m. on
Saturday</b>, December 9 ET.
An update will be posted on this
page once the save feature is
restored. You’ll still be able
to: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Save
certain forms, including
initial applications </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Upload
data from previously saved
forms </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Submit
all TEAS forms as usual </span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p
style="margin:0in;line-height:15.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#1B1B1B"> Saving
will be temporarily disabled on
the following forms: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type="disc">
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style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Change
Address or Representation
Form </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Combined
Declaration of Continued
Use/Excusable Nonuse and
Incontestability under
Sections 71 and 15 </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Combined
Declaration of Use and
Incontestability Under Section
8 and 15 </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Combined
Declaration of Use and/or
Excusable Nonuse/Application
for Renewal of Registration of
a Mark under Section 8 and 9 </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Declaration
of Incontestability of a Mark
under Section 15 </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Declaration
of Use and Excusable Nonuse
under Section 71 </span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Declaration
of Use and/or Excusable Nonuse
of Mark in Commerce Under
Section 8 </span><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Letter
of Protest </span><o:p></o:p></li>
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style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
<span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Petition
for Expungement or
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style="color:#1B1B1B;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;box-sizing:border-box">
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Petition
to Revive Abandoned
Application - Failure to File
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Extension Request </span><o:p></o:p></li>
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to Revive Abandoned
Application - Failure to
Respond Timely to Office
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Amendment Not in Response to
USPTO Office Action/Letter
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