<div dir="ltr">Hi Janet<div><br></div><div> In my experience, the Examiners won't take "third party" shots of your advertising for services or displays associated with the goods. So I would have submitted your client's own picture of the trade show booth. </div><div><br></div><div>Apart from that the key issue for goods specimens is whether the trade show is considered a point-of-sale display. See, TMEP 904.03(g). In at least one case that I have not read in ages, flyers shown at a trade show were considered displays associated with the goods and thus considered acceptable as specimens.<i style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">In re Ancha Elecs. Inc.</i><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">, 1 USPQ2d 1318 (TTAB 1986) (holding that a photograph showing an informational flyer or leaflet clearly depicting the mark and presented on the goods at a trade show exhibit was an acceptable display associated with the goods). But read this section, the USPTO will require you to jump through additional hoops when you file these types of specimens to show that these trade shows are point-of-sale displays for goods and not mere advertising. </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12.8px">I note that you sometimes say goods and sometimes say services in the email. If the specimens were for services, they should have been accepted, without more, in my opinion, so long as the specimens were your own client's photos. </span></div><div><br></div><div>Good Luck!</div><div><br></div><div>Carla Calcagno</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 2:32 PM Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7861372006441899171">
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We filed a use-based application for MARK for sales and marketing of [consumer goods]. </div>
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The specimen was the mark prominently displayed on client's booth at an industry trade show.</div>
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The photo of the booth was from an industry blog.</div>
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The specimen has been refused, first, b/c the photo was in a third party blog (so???);</div>
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and second, because it does not show a direct association between the mark and the services.</div>
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How can that be? A booth at a trade show can only be for the purpose of sales and marketing of the goods. Moreover, the blog post described how the goods were displayed at the booth.</div>
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Has anyone encountered this before, before I dive in to the research?</div>
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