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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>Hi, Ed,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>My view is not as much about the new system being inferior or somewhat more efficient or somewhat less efficient. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>Everything we do in life takes resources. From breathing and walking to working and whatnot. With this whole big change I am forced to waste a lot of my own resources (brain power, work time, energy, emotion) on dealing with a system that hasn’t added anything of significance to the old system, at least in my experience. Even if what I used to be able to do in TESS I can eventually figure out how to do in the new system, it is a forced waste of resources at my end. I don’t appreciate that at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>Maria<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>----------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Maria Eliseeva</span></i></b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'> </span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>Patentbar International </span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'>1-617-332-5800(p)</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:maria@patentbar.com" target="_blank"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif'>maria@patentbar.com</span></i></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.patentbar.com/"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif'>www.patentbar.com</span></i></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#002060'>----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> E-trademarks [mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 18, 2023 2:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> Carl Oppedahl <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Edward Timberlake <ed@timberlakelaw.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Please Reply with Questions (or answers, or both) About Trademark Searching<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>I'd like to take this opportunity flatly to disagree with all the haters of the new trademark search system.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>I'll readily admit the system takes some getting used to (so did TESS), but I'd hardly characterize it as "inferior," or "inefficient," (especially since there's no reason to believe it's anywhere close to being finished), and I'm having a hard time seeing what specific bread-and-butter searching tasks one could accomplish in TESS that would now require one to resort to other searching services and tools.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Even though I felt pretty comfortable constructing search queries in the old system, I'm not finding the new environment fundamentally disorienting. So far it seems more like being exposed to a language where many of the words are clearly cognates but the modifiers go in different places. Plus the interface is prettier. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Rather than start a fight, though (actually, I'd be happy to start a fight, but I'd much rather be trademark searching), I'd like to take this opportunity to ask people if they'd be willing to respond with specific search tasks they're having trouble accomplishing in the new search environment. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>What, specifically, is the question you're trying to answer?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Did you have a search strategy that worked in TESS? If so, what was it?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>There are a lot of us on this listserv (thanks Carl!), and we all know how to do things. If we could match specific questions with specific search strategies (or better yet, an array of strategies), it might be helpful and sounds (at least to me) like more fun than complaining. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Perhaps we could start with Michael Bressman's questions, which (if I understand them correctly) we might summarize as:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>1) How to search for records where he is listed as the attorney<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>2) How to sort among these records for filings with recent activity<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>3) How to limit search results to live or pending filings.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>The first (admittedly opinionated) thing I would say would be: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Never search by anything but field tags.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>(At least in my opinion, searching only or mostly by field tags gives us the most flexibility for modifying strategies while also likely being able to understand why we're getting—or not getting—the results we are.)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>For finding Michael as the attorney of record I'd be inclined to start with:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>AT:bressman AND AT:michael </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>We could limit this to only live records by adding AND LD:true:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'> AT:bressman AND AT:michael AND LD:true</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>And we could further limit this to filings that were not yet registered by adding AND NOT RN:* (which is the system's goofy way of saying no registration number has been issued):</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>AT:bressman AND AT:michael AND LD:true AND NOT RN:*</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>If we wanted to limit these to records which had been updated within a certain range (for instance, since June 1st) we could add AND UD:[2023-06-01 TO 2023-12-31]:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>AT:bressman AND AT:michael AND LD:true AND NOT RN:* AND UD:[2023-06-01 TO 2023-12-31] </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Since one of the possible updates in the UD field is when a new application for registration of a trademark is filed, if we wanted to limit the results to filings with updates since June other than new applications for registration we could add AND NOT FD:[2023-06-01 TO 2023-12-31]: </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>AT:bressman AND AT:michael AND LD:true AND NOT RN:* AND UD:[2023-06-01 TO 2023-12-31] AND NOT FD:[2023-06-01 TO 2023-12-31] </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><br>Do people use other strategies to sort through results for records with recent activity?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>As for Michael's last question (how to sort through records for live or pending files), we already basically answered it by searching from the beginning using field tags, then adding,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>for live records: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>AND LD:true<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>for live records where no registration number has yet been issued (i.e., pending applications for registration of trademarks:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>AND LD:true AND NOT RN:* <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>What other questions do people have?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>What could you do in TESS that you can't seem to be able to do now?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>What strategies did people use before?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>What strategies are people using now?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Ed Timberlake </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.nclawspecialists.gov/for-the-public/find-a-board-certified-specialist/results/detail/?id=29473" target="_blank"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Board Certified Specialist in Trademark Law</span></i></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://timberlakelaw.com/" target="_blank"><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Timberlake Law</span></b></a><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Chapel Hill, NC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://clarity.fm/edtimberlake" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Schedule a call on Clarity</span></a><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:ed@timberlakelaw.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>ed@timberlakelaw.com</span></a><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>919.960.1950<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=96 height=96 id="_x0000_i1030" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4yqPkLcW3Y31kc85P6RS7NWfcWrwuOgQLDSt1RcISuArSpo9OMPIPpEM0gaFcPeg00KJcaNlw0" alt="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4yqPkLcW3Y31kc85P6RS7NWfcWrwuOgQLDSt1RcISuArSpo9OMPIPpEM0gaFcPeg00KJcaNlw0"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 11:39 AM Kroninger, Sr., Timothy K. <<a href="mailto:tkkroninger@varnumlaw.com" target="_blank">tkkroninger@varnumlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello all, I agree totally with David Henry’s (Michael Bressman’s) comments. The system is so far inferior and inefficient overall as compared to the prior searching system. It has forced me to resort to other searching services and tools, and the related added costs associated therewith.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Tim Kroninger<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>UDM Law School Trademark Clinic, Director and Adjunct Professor<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 7.5pt 7.5pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:1.0pt'><img border=0 width=157 height=34 id="m_8432134503219110499m_-667400722716025101_x005f_x0000_i1029" src="cid:image001.png@01DA31D6.E80F2540" alt="cid:image001.png@01DA31D6.E80F2540"></span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td rowspan=2 valign=top style='border:none;border-left:solid #A85511 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 7.5pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'>Timothy</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'>K.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'>Kroninger</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'>Partner</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:7.5pt 0in 0in 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I am finding the sorting very difficult to use. For example, if I do a search for all marks that I am the attorney for, it defaults to sorting by relevance (though most the marks that show up at the beginning are long dead). If I want to see which marks have had recent USPTO activity, I have not figured out how to sort for that. For example, in the old version if an examiner had a approved a mark for publication or if there was a section 8 reminder generated, that mark would be toward the top of the list. Maybe there is a way to do that that I have not figured out. I am also finding it difficult after conducting a search to then limit the findings to live or pending marks (I can’t seem to uncheck the boxes at that point).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So, just trying to figure out if it is just me or if others are finding the system not so user friendly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Happy Holidays!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Michael<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u><span style='color:black'>_________________________________________________</span></u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Michael B. Bressman</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Professor of the Practice of Law</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Faculty Clerkship Advisor</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Vanderbilt Law School</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>131 21<sup>st</sup> Avenue South</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Nashville, Tennessee 37203</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>P: (615) 322-4964</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>F: (615) 343-6562</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>E: </span><a href="mailto:michael.bressman@vanderbilt.edu" target="_blank">michael.bressman@vanderbilt.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-bressman/66/a55/51b" target="_blank" title="Original URL:
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