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<p>Thank you for posting.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/29/2023 5:28 AM, Ken Boone via
E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<span class="ContentPasted1"
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trademark search<span class="ContentPasted1"> </span></span><span
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class="ContentPasted1">LD:true AND MD:unknown</b></span><span
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style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> the
retrieves 21,984 trademarks, mostly
<i>new</i> TEAS special form filings that have yet to receive
initial processing by Pre-Exam. (I say <span
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style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">mostly<span
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class="ContentPasted0">new</i><span class="ContentPasted0"
style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> TEAS
special form filings, as among those <span
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style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">21,984
trademarks are 46 old registrations of the 81-series that
trademark search still falsely indicates are live.)</span></span></span></div>
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<span class="ContentPasted1"
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to TSDR and display the mark information. You'll likely see
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the contradictory entries</span></span></div>
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Standard Character Claim:</td>
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Yes. The mark consists of standard characters without
claim to any particular font style, size, or color.</td>
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Mark Drawing Type:</td>
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0 - UNKNOWN MARK DRAWING TYPE</td>
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<span class="ContentPasted3"
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is, for special form applications yet to be processed by
Pre-Exam (the UNKNOWN mark drawing type), TSDR falsely
indicates the application includes the standard character
claim, at least for every mark I've reviewed so far. </span></div>
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<span class="ContentPasted3"
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for the 2,751,433 marks for the
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AND ST:true</b></span><span class="ContentPasted3"
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search, TSDR displays the expected mark information</span><br>
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Standard Character Claim:</td>
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Yes. The mark consists of standard characters without
claim to any particular font style, size, or color.</td>
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Mark Drawing Type:</td>
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4 - STANDARD CHARACTER MARK</td>
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<span class="ContentPasted3 ContentPasted7"
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the search </span><span class="ContentPasted3 ContentPasted7"
style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><b>LD:true
AND ST:true AND MD:unknown</b></span><span
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confirms that none of those <span class="ContentPasted8"
style="display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">2,751,433
standard character marks has the <b><i>unknown </i></b>mark
drawing type (assuming you trust trademark search).</span></span></div>
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Happy Trademarking,</div>
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Ken Boone</div>
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