<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks everyone for the feedback. This is not a final refusal, so we do still have the option of filing a response on the last day before the deadline. I suppose I was just searching for a way to drag the examination out a little further. I know that the Examiner can’t suspend the application until the cited registrations are at least in the grace period. The last of the cited registrations will not be in the grace period until August. But, perhaps the Examiner will be slow to respond to our arguments against the refusal and the final refusal won’t come for a few months - that could stretch things out until August at which time we can ask for a suspension (assuming the marks aren’t renewed). <div><br></div><div>The client doesn’t love the idea of filing the cancellations now as they fully expect that the cited marks won’t be renewed. Fingers crossed they aren’t. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Jamie</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span><img alt="image.png" src="cid:95426AD0-9AB4-4449-8FC0-77CD6F8459DE"></span><div>1760-F Airline Highway, PMB 220<br>Hollister, CA 95023<br>M 831.261.5444 <br>F 858.777.5545<br><br>This email is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.</div>
<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 2, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Margaret Polson via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<h1><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-weight:normal">See section TMEP 716.02(e) Pending Cancellation or Expiration of Cited Registration<o:p></o:p></span></h1><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> There are some pretty detailed rules on timing of the due date for renewal and the examiner being able to suspend the application pending those dates passing. In my experience,
the examiners are often willing to daisy chain the suspension as long as one of the registrations is within the window
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Reynolds via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 2, 2024 5:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Robert Reynolds <rreynolds@kandrip.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Petition to Revive - "unintentional delay in responding"<o:p></o:p></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jamie,<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> What a rough timing situation to be in. In that situation I would absolutely advise against letting the deadline expire and petitioning the director to revive. I’d charitably call that “playing silly games” and it has a
large chance of backfiring. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">A far better option would be to get a simple OA on file stating what you’ve put below, and including the evidence as to why you believe the 2(d) marks would not be renewed. If your client is truly on board with
filing and prosecuting three cancellation actions at once, they shouldn’t worry too much about the fees for doing things the right way.
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">Some other options are (1) to file an appeal to the TTAB/request for reconsideration to buy a few months, if this is a final refusal; (2) to ask for a suspension of the examination pending the upcoming renewal deadlines
for those three registrations; or (3) just file the three cancellation actions now and use that to suspend the current OA.
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in">Good luck!<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Bob Reynolds</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Senior Counsel</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:standardcontextual"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Klintworth &
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jamie Shelden via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 2, 2024 6:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jamie Shelden <<a href="mailto:justtrademarks@gmail.com">justtrademarks@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Petition to Revive - "unintentional delay in responding"<o:p></o:p></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Happy New Year Listmates!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">I’m wondering if you all have any thoughts on the following tactic regarding a 2(d) refusal citing three existing registrations that are due for renewal later this year. An extension of time to file a response to the refusal was filed
in October. Our new deadline to respond is at the end of this month. However, the renewal deadlines for the three cited applications are not until the very end of January (for one mark) and July and August for the remaining 2 marks (plus the grace periods,
of course). We have good reason to believe that none of the 3 cited marks will be renewed and if the owners attempt to renew, we are prepared to file Petitions to Cancel based on fraudulent specimens of use. But meanwhile, we have the response deadline coming
up. The client has asked if we can “miss” the deadline, then file a Petition to Revive when that deadline comes up. That would buy us several months. In my experience, Notices of Abandonment are coming a two months or more after the response deadline and
then we would have 60 days after that. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">The problem is that we can’t exactly say honestly that the delay in responding would be unintentional at this point.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Any thoughts on getting around this unintentional delay issue?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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