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If the design makes a “distinct commercial impression”, without “mutilation” of the specimen.
<div>Often possible, unless the text is so integrated into the design.</div>
<div>Some cases evaluate a design as dominant over the text, as a general rule<br>
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<div>On Jan 17, 2024, at 6:11 AM, Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">a listserv member asks to post anonymously ...</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">I understand that a proper specimen of use for a composite mark (words + design element) can likewise support a separate, standard character word mark application for just the “word”
portion of the composite mark (let’s assume for goods).<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">But can the same composite specimen support a separate application for just the design element (without the words)? Or does the specimen have to show the design element on the packaging
for the goods by itself without the words? </div>
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