<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Dear Richard,</span><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif">I don't specifically remember there being anything in the online copyright registration form about whether something is a derivative work. There is a page in which you disclaim any prior registrations and other preexisting material that isn't being registered, so the previous registration number would be included there. But I don't think that you have to specify anything about derivative works.</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Cheers,</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></span><br></span></span></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 2:30 PM Richard Straussman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Colleagues who do lots of copyright registrations:<br>
<br>
(I thought that there was a separate Copyright list, but can't seem
to find any past messages in my Inbox).<br>
<br>
I am trying to discern, for purposes of filing for copyright
registration, whether the following (somewhat fictitious, but
analogous) fact pattern would represent filing for registration of a
"new version" or merely a derivative work (I know that a new version
IS ITSELF a derivative work).<br>
<br>
Assume a person created and published an 8 page research paper 5
years ago and at the time person got a copyright registration for it
as a published work. Now, the person creates an 80 page booklet
that includes, substantially <i>verbatim</i> scattered throughout,
about 5 pages of text from their copyrighted work, albeit not
necessarily always contiguous. All of the rest (for which they
would now seek registration as an unpublished work) is new and
original to them and the rest would be properly identified as
subject to the prior copyright. <br>
<br>
My question is: Is the new work specifically to be identified
as a "new version" or merely as a derivative work? As a practical
matter, does it make a difference with respect to validity in any
way if we call it a derivative work and it really is a "new version"
or vice versa?<br>
<br>
I know that the Copyright Office can get pedantic about trivial
things (cue sarcasm - unlike the USPTO), so I would like to be
correct on this point, since the bulletins from the Copyright Office
make a distinction, there must be SOME reason.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance!!<br>
<br>
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