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I'm going to start doing that too, or just ask the client to confirm when we provide the proposed details for an application. </div>
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But isn't it tiresome that as they are taking 9-10 months to get to applications they are wasting time searching for whether the client used a mail drop address. Roll On federal Circuit and Strike this down!!</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I've added to my procedures that we Google Map the address the client gives/found in the Corporate database so that we can avoid that. The examiners are definitely doing so.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:56 AM Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I just got a refusal for an address which turned our to be a UPS store. (client never mentioned that.)</div>
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<div id="x_m_-896866799566774379divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:25 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Ken Liu <<a href="mailto:kel@gg-law.com" target="_blank">kel@gg-law.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Virtual mailbox address</font>
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<div style="font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Sorry if this has been asked before. I thought there was a way to search archives of all past listserv messages, but it appears the archive only goes back four months, is that right?</div>
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