<div dir="ltr">My understanding is that the only online source of USPQ cites is Bloomberg. Bloomberg owns the Bureau of National Affairs who is the sole publisher of the USPQ. Cites to the USPQ are required by USPTO rules, so USPTO practice requires either purchase of Bloomberg or USPQ hard copies. Of course, both requirements are absurd because nobody has Bloomberg, everything is (or should be available) online, and these requirements don't stop anybody from practicing before the USPTO.<div><br></div><div>Perhaps even more absurd is the solution suggested by the case that John blogged today. In place of the current requirement of subscribing to Bloomberg would be the requirement of subscribing to Westlaw. Not a solution.</div><div><br></div><div>Nick Santucci</div><div>LZ Legal Services</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 4:40 PM Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg9217695173294141918">
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, 12 February 2024 at 5:48</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif;color:black">pm<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>[E-trademarks] John's Post re the TTAB Jettisoning the USPQ<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">I don’t know how many of you caught up with John’s TTABlog today about the potential requirement that henceforth all citations to the TTAB will need to be to WESTLAW. To me, this sounds like
a solution in search of a problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">How many people are they going to hire to change all USPQ cites in the TBMP to Westlaw cites? And what about we old timers who have extensive libraries of USPQ citations? I know, the USPQ has
only been published since 1929 but it is still the standard. And what about Federal Courts who prefer the USPQ cites? From my standpoint, I’d have to write a brief using USPQ cites and then have the client pay an associate to translate that into WESTLAW
cites. Why impose that cost on us?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">I have an open mind but would really like to know why the Board thinks that changing the citation format it has used for its entire existence is beneficial. If I were still a solo, and one who
did not subscribe to Westlaw, I would have to do so in order to practice before the TTAB. I know that the universe of we folks who actually did legal research using dusty books in dwindling, but still ……<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt">I could understand saying that “for cases decided from now on you must cite to Westlaw” but to redo history makes no sense for me.
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<h3><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">That said, I am equally bewildered by the MENSTRUATION CRUSTACEON decision.
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