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<p>The appeal effort up until now had cost the applicant/appellant
really a lot of money, many tens of thousands of dollars. I am
aware of at least one member of the listserv who contributed a bit
of money toward that cost.</p>
<p>Yes, an <i>en banc </i>request might be worth pursuing. This
would cost some tens of thousands of dollars in addition to the
costs already incurred.</p>
<p>I wonder whether the trademark community would be willing to pony
up the cost of the <i>en banc </i>request? Possible approaches
could include setting up a gofundme (which would incur fees to the
provider of the gofundme service) or perhaps a listserv member
serving as the collection point for contributions. I imagine
there any of a number of listserv members who could be trusted to
provide that service and would not ask for any fee for that
service.</p>
<p>Carl<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/15/2024 8:57 AM, John L. Welch via
E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Maybe
a request for
<i>en banc</i> reconsideration would be worth pursuing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">JLW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
Erikson, Daan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com"><Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Welch, John L.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com"><John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: CAFC handed down its opinion in In
re Chestek today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have
read this decision and am curious what others think of the
reasoning. I find the last part of the decision (page 13)
particularly perplexing. Isn’t it circular to say that an
agency doesn’t have to prepare for every eventuality,
especially when there is nothing in the record about privacy
concerns, when there wasn’t a reason for people to be
concerned about privacy during the notice and comment
period? And anyway how is this change not a substantive
rule that affects individual rights and obligations when it
affects individuals’ privacy rights?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
E-trademarks <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John L. Welch via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John L. Welch <<a
href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] CAFC handed down its
opinion in In re Chestek today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
“where do you sleep at night” case.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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attached</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">JLW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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