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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My recollection is that when Pam decided to do this, a bunch of us piped up and said we would contribute, but it sounds like we did not follow through. I would submit that
rather than general statements of support, we either “pledge” a specific amount that Pam or her proxy can come ask us to fulfill, or we set up a fund and Pam can decide when day zero to file the motion hits, if we put our money where our mouths are. I am
sorry that I cannot personally coordinate this; I am almost a year into covering my practice plus my partner’s who has been on medical leave for the better part of a year, but I will pledge or contribute if one of these things happens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2024 11:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <carl@oppedahl.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] CAFC handed down its opinion in In re Chestek today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>The appeal effort up until now had cost the applicant/appellant really a lot of money, many tens of thousands of dollars. I am aware of at least one member of the listserv who contributed a bit of money toward that cost.<span style="mso-ligatures:none"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>Yes, an <i>en banc </i>request might be worth pursuing. This would cost some tens of thousands of dollars in addition to the costs already incurred.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I wonder whether the trademark community would be willing to pony up the cost of the
<i>en banc </i>request? Possible approaches could include setting up a gofundme (which would incur fees to the provider of the gofundme service) or perhaps a listserv member serving as the collection point for contributions. I imagine there any of a number
of listserv members who could be trusted to provide that service and would not ask for any fee for that service.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/15/2024 8:57 AM, John L. Welch via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Maybe a request for
<i>en banc</i> reconsideration would be worth pursuing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">JLW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> Erikson, Daan
<a href="mailto:Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com"><Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Welch, John L. <a href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com"><John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: CAFC handed down its opinion in In re Chestek today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have read this decision and am curious what others think of the reasoning. I find the last part of the decision (page 13) particularly perplexing. Isn’t it circular to say that an agency
doesn’t have to prepare for every eventuality, especially when there is nothing in the record about privacy concerns, when there wasn’t a reason for people to be concerned about privacy during the notice and comment period? And anyway how is this change not
a substantive rule that affects individual rights and obligations when it affects individuals’ privacy rights?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John L. Welch via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John L. Welch <<a href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com">John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] CAFC handed down its opinion in In re Chestek today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The “where do you sleep at night” case.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Pdf attached</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">JLW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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