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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/15/2024 9:02 PM, mrichter
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
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E-trademarks
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2024 11:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] CAFC handed down its
opinion in In re Chestek today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>The appeal effort up until now had cost the
applicant/appellant really a lot of money, many tens of
thousands of dollars. I am aware of at least one member of
the listserv who contributed a bit of money toward that cost.<span
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<p>Yes, an <i>en banc </i>request might be worth pursuing.
This would cost some tens of thousands of dollars in addition
to the costs already incurred.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I wonder whether the trademark community would be willing to
pony up the cost of the
<i>en banc </i>request? Possible approaches could include
setting up a gofundme (which would incur fees to the provider
of the gofundme service) or perhaps a listserv member serving
as the collection point for contributions. I imagine there
any of a number of listserv members who could be trusted to
provide that service and would not ask for any fee for that
service.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/15/2024 8:57 AM, John L. Welch via
E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Maybe
a request for
<i>en banc</i> reconsideration would be worth pursuing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
Erikson, Daan
<a href="mailto:Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not
for laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Welch, John L. <a
href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: CAFC handed down its opinion in In
re Chestek today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have
read this decision and am curious what others think of the
reasoning. I find the last part of the decision (page 13)
particularly perplexing. Isn’t it circular to say that an
agency doesn’t have to prepare for every eventuality,
especially when there is nothing in the record about
privacy concerns, when there wasn’t a reason for people to
be concerned about privacy during the notice and comment
period? And anyway how is this change not a substantive
rule that affects individual rights and obligations when
it affects individuals’ privacy rights?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
E-trademarks <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John L. Welch via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not
for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John L. Welch <<a
href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] CAFC handed down its
opinion in In re Chestek today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
“where do you sleep at night” case.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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