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Hi all,<br>
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It's not looking promising for a petition for rehearing. There
haven't been enough contributions to cover the attorneys' fees that
I will incur, despite a post on <a
href="https://patentlyo.com/patent/2024/02/limit-chestek-frees.html">Patently-O</a>
that points out the additional power that the Federal Circuit has
given the PTO. It doesn't seem that enough people are sufficiently
alarmed by it to cover the cost of trying to have the decision
reversed. If you know anyone who might be willing to help, here's a
link to the form again,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfJKXeXfrg_G40wiedbZvAhB-lIS_d33QUEKTILa63q4Quybw/viewform">https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfJKXeXfrg_G40wiedbZvAhB-lIS_d33QUEKTILa63q4Quybw/viewform</a>.<br>
<br>
Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville Street<br>
Unit 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
+1 919-800-8033<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.chesteklegal.com">www.chesteklegal.com</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/16/2024 7:58 AM, Carl Oppedahl via
E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<p>Thank you Miriam. Can you please enter the pledge <a
href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfJKXeXfrg_G40wiedbZvAhB-lIS_d33QUEKTILa63q4Quybw/viewform?usp=sf_link"
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/15/2024 9:02 PM, mrichter
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
E-trademarks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2024 11:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not
for laypersons to seek legal advice. <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><carl@oppedahl.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] CAFC handed down
its opinion in In re Chestek today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>The appeal effort up until now had cost the
applicant/appellant really a lot of money, many tens of
thousands of dollars. I am aware of at least one member of
the listserv who contributed a bit of money toward that
cost.<span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:none"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>Yes, an <i>en banc </i>request might be worth pursuing.
This would cost some tens of thousands of dollars in
addition to the costs already incurred.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I wonder whether the trademark community would be willing
to pony up the cost of the <i>en banc </i>request?
Possible approaches could include setting up a gofundme
(which would incur fees to the provider of the gofundme
service) or perhaps a listserv member serving as the
collection point for contributions. I imagine there any of
a number of listserv members who could be trusted to provide
that service and would not ask for any fee for that service.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/15/2024 8:57 AM, John L. Welch via
E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Maybe
a request for <i>en banc</i> reconsideration would be
worth pursuing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">JLW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
Erikson, Daan <a
href="mailto:Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><Daan.Erikson@huschblackwell.com></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not
for laypersons to seek legal advice. <a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Welch, John L. <a
href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: CAFC handed down its opinion in
In re Chestek today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
have read this decision and am curious what others think
of the reasoning. I find the last part of the decision
(page 13) particularly perplexing. Isn’t it circular to
say that an agency doesn’t have to prepare for every
eventuality, especially when there is nothing in the
record about privacy concerns, when there wasn’t a
reason for people to be concerned about privacy during
the notice and comment period? And anyway how is this
change not a substantive rule that affects individual
rights and obligations when it affects individuals’
privacy rights?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">
E-trademarks <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John L. Welch via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not
for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John L. Welch <<a
href="mailto:John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">John.Welch@WolfGreenfield.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] CAFC handed down its
opinion in In re Chestek today.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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EMAIL]</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
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