<div dir="ltr">Kevin's question was "statutory basis." If there's no statutory authority, the regulation is a dead red herring out of water.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:01 AM Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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"[T]he United States Patent and Trademark Office (“USPTO†or
“Officeâ€) promulgated Rule 42.12, which expressly authorizes the
Patent Trial and Appeal Board (“PTAB†or “Boardâ€) to issue sanctions
to punish and deter a wide range of misconduct. 37 C.F.R. § 42.12.
Those sanctions include, among others, an award of “compensatory
expenses, including attorney fees.†37 C.F.R. § 42.12(b)(6). The
Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit has recognized this
regulatory power to award attorney fees as a “means for regulating
litigation misconduct.†<i>See Amneal Pharmaceuticals LLC v.
Almirall, LLC</i>, 960 F.3d 1368, 1372 n.* (Fed. Cir. 2020) (Ҥ
42.12 allows the Board to impose sanctions including ‘attorney
fees’â€)."<br>
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<a href="https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ipr2021-01064_p127_sanctions_order_restoring_os.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ipr2021-01064_p127_sanctions_order_restoring_os.pdf</a><br>
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<div>On 2/28/2024 10:34 AM, Kevin Grierson
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 28, 2024 9:34 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Your morning dose of
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agreed. I do have a question, though,
concerning sanctions: it has always been my
understanding that neither the TTAB nor the PTAB could
award monetary sanctions, but I recently read a decision
by the Director in a patent case awarding attorneys
fees. I’m not sure of the statutory basis for that
award, but I wonder if that might not be available in
Trademark cases as well. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com" target="_blank">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Your morning dose of
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<img style="width: 2.802in; height: 3in;" id="m_8850736982693838650m_8858707110450477604m_-8525149054553635574_x0000_i1059" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgt9awcN4enybLQAEcQsRKWN6e-NnrzHqVMAO_-sSK1tdqCgz-sC8srSaBzcUbzUzS-HofYS126tVHFechmXzYoxi5PI3exubbFj8058Iu06Ye-rEGLZhU7VOum1NatR-drvcGpIvDEZYhArVSZUd7VurcQl7xV98TXfy6smB1MylwVnPr2eGRr/s288/LAIKABEAST.JPG" width="269" height="288" border="0">(LAIKABEAST) for mugs and plates, based on
various registrations for slogans in the form "[verb]
THE [adjective] BEAST," like Unleash the Beast, Unleash
the Nitro Beast, and Rehab the Beast.<br>
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But why not, if you're Monster Energy? You gain a
reputation as a litigant, therefore giving anyone pause
who thinks of using MONSTER (or apparently now BEAST)
for anything all all. You know the cost of your
registration is going to include an opposition by the
TTAB and few are going to elect that choice. There's no
sanction at the TTAB, although in this case if it was
federal court I think there would be a good basis for
sanctions. Monster Energy has nothing to lose.<br>
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Pam<u></u><u></u></p>
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Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville St.<br>
Unit 2402<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
+1 919-800-8033<br>
<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com" target="_blank">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.chesteklegal.com/" target="_blank">www.chesteklegal.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Few things go better with your
morning cup of coffee than Monster Energy getting
whacked by the TTAB. They keep trying, though.
Seriously, how long before Toho gets a
cease-and-desist letter from them for calling
Godzilla "king of the monsters"? <a href="http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2024/02/first-dupont-factor-brings-ttab.html?m=1" target="_blank">http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2024/02/first-dupont-factor-brings-ttab.html?m=1</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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