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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Goudy Old Style",serif;color:#1F497D">Could you do a Section 7 amendment to eliminate the colors from the description?
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Mark description in registration describes colors, but no claim to color made--what happens if renewal specimen uses different colors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">No, no lining patterns for color (I do remember those, and yes, it makes me feel old), the image of the mark is in greyscale. I think the mark description was a mistake by
the filing attorney. In any event, TSDR says there is no claim to color, and the registration certificate mentions the colors in the mark description but does not reference a color claim either.
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Mark description in registration describes colors, but no claim to color made--what happens if renewal specimen uses different colors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Is the drawing not lined for color? Applications filed before November 2003 could use a drawing in black and white with various lining patterns used to represent different colors. See TMEP 808.01(b). So it sounds
like it may actually have a color claim that, presumably, matches the description.<br>
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I'm not sure where you can find a copy of the patterns, I couldn't locate it quickly in the TMEP. But I'm sure someone on this list knows where it is! Used to be in the CFR.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville St.<br>
Unit 2402<br>
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+1 919-800-8033<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/29/2024 6:25 PM, Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Hi folks, this is a weird one. Inherited a fairly old registration (filed 2001, registered 2004) with lots of scanned paper filings, so I’m having a hard time figuring out what
happened, but my client has a registration for a mark with a design component. The application and registration do NOT reference a claim to color, but the mark description DOES, so for example, if the mark was ACME next to a flag, the description reads “The
mark consists of the word ACME in red next to a flag consisting of red and white stripes.” The application was based on a foreign registration in color; my guess is that the original counsel omitted (forgot?) the color claim but described the original foreign
mark in the application. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">20+ years later, client has decided to change the color scheme, so now ACME is in green and the flag has green and white stripes. Would a specimen in the new color scheme filed
with a Section 8 declaration be accepted? As noted, the registration doesn’t claim color (and for what it’s worth, the office’s official drawing is in black and white) but the specimen would not match the description of the mark. Thankfully, we recently filed
the second renewal with a specimen that matches the colors in the description, but I’m thinking down the road about the next renewal and whether it makes sense to file a new application now.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I have looked through the TMEP at the sections dealing with mark descriptions, but all the sections I’ve found deal with pre-registration review issues, not what effect (if any)
an inaccurate description has on post-registration filings.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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