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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_Hlk494874294"></a><a name="_Hlk494874176"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk494874294"><font size="2" color="#156082" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#156082">I often see incomplete
or mixed correspondence addresses in TSDR after an attorney attempts to change the correspondence address, including after I file a CAR, and I am not precisely clear why. I think it has to do with the attorney attempting to change the correspondence address
with the CAR form without filing a Request for Withdrawal or without the applicant signing the new CAR and revoking all prior representation.
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“mill” referred you to the applicant right away is because their original representation of the applicant was “partial representation” that terminated with the issuance of the registration but they never filed a withdrawal of attorney when the registration
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks
<e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Kelcey Patrick-Ferree via E-trademarks<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 29, 2024 09:34 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Kevin Grierson <kgrierson@cm.law><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Kelcey Patrick-Ferree <kpf@patrickferreelaw.com>; For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [EXT] Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Mill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I do have contact information for the applicant, who is now the primary contact for the application, both physical address and email address. It's just that the secondary email
address is the trademark mill's email address, and the docket number is still the trademark mill's docket number.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Warm regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Kelcey<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 5:52</span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></font>PM Kevin Grierson <<a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law">kgrierson@cm.law</a>>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Kelcey Patrick-Ferree via E-trademarks<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 29, 2024 6:45 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">
e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a> Carl <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Kelcey Patrick-Ferree <<a href="mailto:kpf@patrickferreelaw.com" target="_blank">kpf@patrickferreelaw.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [E-trademarks] Trademark Mill<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I've somehow never had this come up before. I have a client who is concerned about an application filed by a Legalzoom-type
trademark mill. Since the mill employee is an attorney and was listed as the attorney of record, I sent a letter about the concerning application to the mill employee. The mill employee promptly withdrew as attorney of record for the application and asked
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">But the mill's email address is still listed as a secondary email address for contacting the now-technically-unrepresented
applicant, and the "docket number" code hasn't changed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Seems like they're trying to be the attorney of record without actually being the attorney of record/representing the
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