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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Boone via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 1, 2024 6:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> E-Trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ken Boone <boondogles@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] DSCM - General Guidelines - Graphic Missing For Guideline 15 ?!?!? (That Color Lining Graphic)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">FYI - Responding to Pamela Chestek's comment, "I'm not sure where you can find a copy of the patterns, I couldn't locate it quickly in the TMEP." I recall adding that color lining
graphic to the DSCM about 15 to 20 years ago, but I couldn't find it in the current DSCM. Looking more thoroughly, that graphic apparently got
<i>misplaced</i> with recent updates to the DSCM. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">In the email below, I alerted the USPTO to restore that color lining graphic to the DSCM as quickly as possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Ken Boone <<a href="mailto:boondogles@hotmail.com">boondogles@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 1, 2024 6:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> TMFeedback <<a href="mailto:tmfeedback@uspto.gov">tmfeedback@uspto.gov</a>>;
<a href="mailto:TMDesignCodeComments@USPTO.GOV">TMDesignCodeComments@USPTO.GOV</a> <<a href="mailto:TMDesignCodeComments@USPTO.GOV">TMDesignCodeComments@USPTO.GOV</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> DSCM - General Guidelines - Graphic Missing For Guideline 15 ?!?!?</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">It appears that the relevant image file somehow was lost when the USPTO updated the DSCM from using the search engine for the retired TESS to the new search engine used in the new
Trademark Search. I hope that graphic showing the different patterns used to represent colors in trademark drawing prior to November 2, 2003 can be restored ASAP.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you in advance for your prompt attention to this matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">PS: The following E-Trademark discussion group posting prompted me to find that
<b><i>color lining</i></b> graphic (<b><span style="background:yellow">highlighting</span></b> mine). Isn't that graphic in the TMEP or elsewhere on the USPTO website? Apparently the
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on behalf of Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 29, 2024 5:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a> <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pamela Chestek <<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Mark description in registration describes colors, but no claim to color made--what happens if renewal specimen uses different colors?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Is the drawing not lined for color? Applications filed before November 2003 could use a drawing in black and white with various lining patterns used to
represent different colors. See TMEP 808.01(b). So it sounds like it may actually have a color claim that, presumably, matches the description.<br>
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<b><span style="background:yellow">I'm not sure where you can find a copy of the patterns, I couldn't locate it quickly in the TMEP.</span></b> But I'm sure someone on this list knows where it is! Used to be in the CFR.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville St.<br>
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Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
+1 919-800-8033<br>
<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.chesteklegal.com/">www.chesteklegal.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">On 2/29/2024 6:25 PM, Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Hi folks, this is a weird one. Inherited a fairly old registration (filed 2001, registered 2004) with lots of scanned paper filings, so I’m having a hard time figuring out what happened, but my client has a registration for a mark
with a design component. The application and registration do NOT reference a claim to color, but the mark description DOES, so for example, if the mark was ACME next to a flag, the description reads “The mark consists of the word ACME in red next to a flag
consisting of red and white stripes.” The application was based on a foreign registration in color; my guess is that the original counsel omitted (forgot?) the color claim but described the original foreign mark in the application. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">20+ years later, client has decided to change the color scheme, so now ACME is in green and the flag has green and white stripes. Would a specimen in the new color scheme filed with a Section 8 declaration be accepted? As noted,
the registration doesn’t claim color (and for what it’s worth, the office’s official drawing is in black and white) but the specimen would not match the description of the mark. Thankfully, we recently filed the second renewal with a specimen that matches
the colors in the description, but I’m thinking down the road about the next renewal and whether it makes sense to file a new application now.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">I have looked through the TMEP at the sections dealing with mark descriptions, but all the sections I’ve found deal with pre-registration review issues, not what effect (if any) an inaccurate description has on post-registration
filings.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Thanks,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Kevin</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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