<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Janet: </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I agree with Bob. Moreover, I think TMEP § 901.02 supports your position; for instance, the example of pharmaceuticals and medical equipment in that section. The following verbatim from TMEP § 901.02:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><u><br></u></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><u>"See</u> <u>Automedx Inc. v. Artivent Corp.</u>, 95 USPQ2d 1976 (TTAB 2010) (finding sales of demonstration models of portable medical ventilators to military constituted bona fide use of mark in commerce)"</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">My interpretation is that your matter is analogous to <u>Automedx Inc.</u></div></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ahad</div><div><br></div><div><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;border:none"><tbody><tr><td width="134" valign="top" style="width:1.4in;padding:0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><img width="96" height="66" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wk_sv3vmz0MM2_i8pNmyyihPfFzCvi0ekWy2vKDOJUDKYimDRysVC6R5ZcWtz5_jKmWxwuz2I"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></p></td><td width="489" valign="top" style="width:366.7pt;padding:0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><b><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2">Ahad Syed *</font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"><i>Managing Attorney</i>, Syed Law®</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">125 South Wacker Drive, Suite 300, Chicago, Illinois 60606</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2" style="font-size:small">312-618-0713 </font><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">(T)</span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="mailto:asyed@syedlawoffices.com" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:blue" target="_blank">asyed@syedlawoffices.com</a><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">(E)</span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"><a href="http://www.syedlawoffices.com/" style="color:blue" target="_blank">www.syedlawoffices.com</a></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="2"><i>* Licensed in IL and CA.</i></font></p></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:36 PM Cumbow, Bob via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8013575596876344908">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 4, 2024 11:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] use in commerce question<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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