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Thanks Ken. For a specific reason I was looking at how to do it with
regex. I also hope that in your below search that in GS2 you would
get all varieties of t-shirt by only putting in one of them, but I
haven't tested it.<br>
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I also see you put parentheses around the numbers when joining sets.
That might explain why mine sometimes fail and sometimes not
(another mystery), where the sets were complex searches in and of
themselves.<br>
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Pam<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville Street<br>
Unit 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
+1 919-800-8033<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/15/2024 10:22 PM, Ken Boone via
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Sorry to join the game late. I'm merely adding some alternative
searches. (Where's the view search history button? I can see
my old searches, but inconveniently I have to export the session
history to see the hit counts for those searches. And where's
the full record display with search terms <b><i>highlighted</i></b>?
Not sure why the hit counts exploded in the last 3 searches.
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177,539</div>
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GS2:("t shirt" ~2 ) AND LD:true</div>
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177,538</div>
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GS2:("t shirt" ~1 ) AND LD:true</div>
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177,534</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 15, 2024 7:54 PM<br>
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<div class="PlainText">Indeed, and the help materials
couldn't be more terse and the
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information more difficult to find, other than not to
exist at all. I <br>
have yet to figure out how (if possible) to search for a
two-word <br>
expression, like "baby bonnet," using regex.<br>
<br>
Id Query ResultCount<br>
3 GS2:(/baby/ AND /bonnet/) 2484<br>
2 GS2:/baby bonnet/ 0<br>
1 GS2:"baby bonnet" 43<br>
<br>
So you're left with trying to remember two similar, but
not identical, <br>
search systems, including how they treat quotation marks,
reserved <br>
characters, capitalization, etc.<br>
<br>
Pam<br>
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Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville Street<br>
Unit 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
+1 919-800-8033<br>
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On 3/15/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Schafer via E-trademarks
wrote:<br>
> The fact that we have to make guesses about how the
indexes work shows how poorly the PTO has implemented and
documented this system. I wonder if examining attorneys
have the same poor explanation about how the indexes work.
If they do, that's really bad. If they have a fuller
explanation, what possible reason would the PTO have for
not making that explanation public?<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
> Richard A. Schafer | Schafer IP Law<br>
> P.O. Box 230081 | Houston, TX 77223<br>
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> Cc: Neil R. Ormos <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ormos-lists@ormos.org"><ormos-lists@ormos.org></a><br>
> Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Regex search<br>
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> Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Can anyone explain to me why the first two search
queries didn't give<br>
>> me the same results as the third query? I was in
expert mode.<br>
> <br>
>> GS:/t\-shirt/ 0<br>
>> GS:/t[-]shirt/ 0<br>
>> GS:t-shirt 511200<br>
> When the GS index is used with a regular expression
search, the index appears to contain each of the words of
the goods and services field in isolation. Spaces and
hyphens separate words, but some other punctuation does
not. Your regexps do not match because t-shirt does not
appear as a single word in the index.<br>
><br>
> The GS index behaves differently when used with other
types of search.<br>
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> And the GS2 index also behaves differently.<br>
><br>
> GS2:/t[-]shirt/<br>
><br>
> returns 61,341 records.<br>
><br>
> I know GS2 does some sort of stemming, but I haven't
been able to synthesize a complete explanation. If
someone has GS2 figured it out, or knows of a document
that describes its behavior, I hope they will explain.<br>
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