<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">So how was a Section 8 filed without saying anything about goods C? </div></div></blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Paper filing; Human error, etc ?<div><div><br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 25, 2024, at 1:51 PM, Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">How do you file a Section 8 without saying anything about certain goods? The default declaration indicates that the mark is still in use on all the goods that were not deleted. I would think that the TEAS form would not let you complete a filing without providing a specimen for, or deleting, each class (other than a declaration of excusable non-use).<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">So how was a Section 8 filed without saying anything about goods C? <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 780px; border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0in;"><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 780px; border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 7.5pt 0in 0in;"><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 780px; 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font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Vic Indiano via E-trademarks<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, March 23, 2024 3:46 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Vic Indiano <<a href="mailto:gadgetlawyer@yahoo.com" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">gadgetlawyer@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[E-trademarks] Amending a Sections 8 and 15 Declaration<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0.75pt;"><div style="border: 3pt solid red; padding: 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; text-align: center; line-height: 12pt; background: red;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: white;">EXTERNAL EMAIL<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">I recently took over a case where a sections 8 and 15 declaration had been filed.</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">Prior to the filing, the registration included five goods-- A, B, C, D, and E.</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">In the declaration, </span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"> 1. goods A and B were deleted;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"> 2. Goods D and E were listed as still being used; and </span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"> 3. Nothing was said about goods C. It was neither listed as deleted nor listed as still being used.</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">It would seem that the best way to reinstate goods C would be to file a voluntary amendment, that would include statements relating to </span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">(a) goods C still being in use;</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">(b) a specimen showing goods C; </span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">(c) a declaration similar to the declaration that one normally files in connection with a sections 8 and 15 declaration; and</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">(e) a miscellaneous statement describing what happened, the reason for the amendment etc.</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">Am I on the right track? </span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">Does anyone else have any better ideas?</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">Am I missing something?</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">Thank you in advance for your help in your thoughts.</span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;">Vic </span><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: "Helvetica Neue", serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">E-trademarks mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="mailto:E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">E-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><a href="http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline; font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>