<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for sharing the article!  I'm glad Ken Boone got a shout out. </div><div><br></div><div>Who decided that "key information" for a trademark is filing date and attorney information? <br></div><div><br></div><div>Judith<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 3:31 PM Alex Butterman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg4031964401846609752">





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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 1, 2024 09:42 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [EXT] Re: [E-trademarks] Not everyone is unhappy with the new TESS<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span></b>Monday, April 1, 2024 at 9:41</span></font><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black">AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 5:30</span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></font>PM Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span style="font-size:12pt"> From a non-lawyer, a software developer, so TIFWIW:<br>
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thankfully have been replaced by an easier modern search engine now that <br>
I re-checked it recently) ..."<br>
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Pam<br>
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Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
300 Fayetteville St.<br>
Unit 2492<br>
Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
+1 919-800-8033<br>
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