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"Premature Use"? Never heard of that one!<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/10/2024 9:41 PM, Laura Geyer via
E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alex:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve had a number of LOPs accepted over the
years, and I always tell clients that:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">It’s
absolutely confidential as an initial matter, and if not
granted, it’s pretty safe to assume nobody but G-d and an
unidentified person on the PTO staff will know about it, BUT<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">If granted,
and especially if the applicant is aware of your existence,
there’s a chance that they’ll
<i>guess</i> who is responsible especially if your mark is
the only one cited. If it’s one of those 13 mark 2(d)s
<span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">🙄🙄🙄</span>
you might squeak past, but if it’s the corporate equivalent
of a national security concern then:<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Just assume
that it could be found out by FOIA or accidentally entered
into the record somehow in the process and make your
dispositions accordingly.
<o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It’s just such a useful tool that it’s
worth the risk. I’m not aware of one of mine that leaked but
certainly it wouldn’t take a master carpenter to sort out
who’d filed it in some of those cases. I do remember back when
the “Trademark King” filed to register something like 80
trademark applications a number of which incorporated famous
trademarks (like, say, Mercedes) or famous people’s names like
Elton John or a bunch of generic things like “Holiday Sale”
(resulting in office action responses I treasure to this day)
all for “trademark branding”. There was a rain of LOPs in lots
of the famous mark applications, many of which were passed on
to the examiners and 2(d)s issued (that probably would have
issued anyway). I mean, it could have been a random Concerned
Citizen, but the smart money would have been on the brand
owners… <span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">
😉</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“Who was the Trademark King,” those of you
who are not old like me might ask … just a few screenshots
from one of his efforts.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img style="width:3.025in;height:2.925in"
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width="290" height="281"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The summary of issues that repeated for
multiple office actions:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The King appealed to the Commissioner – Sir
Elton had slept upon his rights! He was lazy!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When the Examiner remained obdurate, the
Trademark King appealed to a higher authority:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alas, it all ended in abandonment. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Have a great evening!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Laura Talley
Geyer (she/her)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Of Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ND Galli
Law LLC</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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G Street, N.W., Ste 800<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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DC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Tel:
(202) 599-9019 (direct)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Butterman via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alex Butterman
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:abutterman@dbllawyers.com"><abutterman@dbllawyers.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [EXT] Re: Letter of
Protest: anonymous?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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a good question. I have a fed government agency client
that figured their Letters of Protest could be discovered
by a FOIA request.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Crane, Susan via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2024 08:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [E-trademarks] Letter of
Protest: anonymous?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">True, but is
it possible you can file a FOIA request to get the original
letter?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Susan L. Crane<br>
Group Vice President, Legal<br>
Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing<br>
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22 Sylvan Way<br>
Parsippany, NJ 07054<br>
O (973) 753-6455<br>
M (973) 879-3420<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Apr
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Protest does not get sent to the applicant, nor is
it part of the TSDR record. However, if approved, a
memorandum from the Office of the Deputy
Commissioner to the Examining Attorney with the
relevant information for consideration <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards, <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 3:05<span
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Judith S via E-trademarks <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a small client who is
contemplating filing a Letter of Protest against
a larger competitor who filed a trademark for a
term they consider generic or descriptive of the
technology they use.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They are concerned that if
they are identified as the "Protestor" there
might be retaliation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The
"Name of Protestor" field instruction says
"Enter the full legal name of the entity
objecting to the registration of a mark in a
pending application, i.e., the name of the
individual, corporation, partnership, or other
entity that is protesting registration of a
mark, NOT the person or firm completing the
Letter of Protest."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could we use the name of the
in-house attorney who is initiating the
objection or some other name?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any insight.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Judith<o:p></o:p></p>
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