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note that it has a weird time window<span class="_Entity _EType_OWA_HYPHEN _EId_OWA_HYPHEN _EReadonly_1" style="display:inline-block"><span class="hyphen">\u2014</span></span>I think the registrations have to more than three years old but less than ten?\u200b</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 20, 2024 6:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com>; Kevin Grierson <kgrierson@cm.law>; Robert Rosenthal <rrosenthal@phd-ip.com><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Two issues</font>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thank you both Kevin and Robert for directing me to the new expungement option. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">However, it's $400 to file per class. I wish it were free! </div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">There should be a hotline where we can report these kinds of trademark registration fraud. UGH! </div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nancy Prager via E-trademarks<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Two issues</span></p>
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<p class="x_ydpdbd9643cyiv7915887346MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">I was doing a knock out search this morning for a client. I was shocked to see that the USPTO accepted two specimens which have significant issues:<br clear="none">
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1) In the screenshots for YouTube videos that purport to support that there are multiple episodes of a show the videos are clearly marked as unlisted. Unlisted videos are not technically publicly available on the platform. Each of the videos had between
1 and 4 views. Not hundreds, thousands or millions. Single digits. How was that not clearly fake? this was processed in 2020<br clear="none">
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2) Another specimen is clearly a picture where the mark has been transposed on a generic journal. Like a notebook you buy at the store. I am shocked it was accepted. this was processed in 2022. <br clear="none">
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In both instances I cannot find any evidence of actual use on the internet, or on YouTube years after the videos were purportedly uploaded. <br clear="none">
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Both marks are within the initial 5 year window. Is my client's only option to cancel the marks? Is there another option so that my client doesn't have to incur costs? Also, couldn't the registrant start using the marks now once notified of the cancellation
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thanks in advance! Hope to meet some of you at the INTA reception. <br clear="none">
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Best,</span></p>
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Nancy </span></p>
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