<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Honestly, I'm more relieved that </span><i style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">RD:20240430</i><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt">yields the same number of hits at the combination of </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><i>RD:20240430 AND RN:*</i>
plus <i>RD:20240430 NOT RN:* </i>. No weird, indeterminate third state.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12pt"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Cheers,</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></span><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 11:15 AM Ken Boone via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg2635919880230464647">
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I tried to do a quick check of registrations issued last Tuesday. </div>
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The search <b>RD:20240430</b> retrieves 7,212 trademarks. I assumed each would have a registration number. </div>
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The search <b>RD:20240430 AND RN:*</b> only retrieves 7,080 trademarks. Same for the search
<b>RD:20240430 AND SA:registered</b>. </div>
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Alternatively, the search <b>RD:20240430 NOT RN:*</b> retrieves 132 trademarks. Same for the search
<b>RD:20240430 AND SA:review</b>. Same for the search <b>RD:20240430 AND RG:supplemental</b>. The Trademark Search
<i>status</i> LIVE PENDING is reported for these 132 trademarks, while the TSDR has
<i>Review prior to publication completed</i> as the status. (Well, the few I checked.)</div>
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These unusual occurrences (registration date entries without corresponding registration numbers) got me looking for other such occurrences. The search
<b>RD:[* TO 20240505] NOT RN:*</b> retrieves <b>191</b> trademarks. That is, for registration dates up to today, 191 trademarks have a registration date entry but do NOT include a registration number. Conveniently, that's a small enough count to export all
191 trademarks, and I have summarized those 191 trademarks by registration date (all calendar year 2024) in the following table.</div>
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Principal Register</div>
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Supplemental Register</div>
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127</div>
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191</div>
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(Okay, something is wrong with my summary, as I only list 127 instead of 132 trademarks for 04/30/24. Ooops.)</div>
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Is this an expected behavior - that the USPTO would load a registration date for a trademark record without a registration number? Do you suppose this behavior is because the USPTO is
<span style="color:rgb(12,100,192)"><i>maintaining a legacy system, Trademark Reporting And Monitoring (TRAM), as well as an updated one, and the issue will resolve when we retire TRAM</i></span>? Thoughts?</div>
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Wait. I observed a similar phenomenon with the published for opposition date field.</div>
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The search <b>PO:20240430</b> retrieves 10,864 trademarks. I assumed all those trademarks were published for opposition last Tuesday. Not so fast. The search
<b>PO:20240430 AND SA:published</b> only retrieves 10,734 trademarks. Alternatively, the search
<b>PO:20240430 AND SA:review</b> retrieves 108 trademarks, where TSDR has the status
<span style="color:rgb(12,100,192)"><i>Review prior to publication completed</i></span> for the trademarks I checked. (Expanding the date range via the search
<b>PO:[* TO 20240430] AND SA:review</b> retrieves 11,324 trademarks {all live} with published for opposition date entries that have passed and the term
<b><i>review </i></b>in the SA - Status field, though since that field is NOT displayed on TM Search ...)<span style="font-weight:700"> </span>Again, is this the behavior that you expected for the published for opposition field? Thoughts? </div>
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