<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">On the other hand, all of those applications are public record. Anyone with a mind to do so could go into the search system and find that X is my client, that my client sells Y, and that the ignorant examiner wrongfully denied us because Z. My saying any of that here doesn't really divulge anything confidential. Not that we couldn't somehow slip into mentioning things that <i>are</i> confidential, but the nature of this particular practice (in my mind anyway) makes all of this less of a concern.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Cheers,</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></span><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:43 PM Crane, Susan via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7888874393308817158">
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I think we all need to be more mindful of that reality.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] ABA ethics opinion on case hypotheticals on listservs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">Thanks for sharing. To be clear the “digest” which is pasted below, does not really do it justice. The opinion doesn’t prohibit using listservs for client matter,
but rather reminds us not to do anything that could violate our 1.</span><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:white"> </span><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">6 obligations.</span><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:white"> </span><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks for sharing. To be clear the “digest” which is pasted below, does not really do it justice. The opinion doesn’t prohibit using listservs for client matter, but rather reminds us not to do anything that
could violate our 1.6 obligations.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">More appropriate would be this quote from page 5:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11pt">Not all inquiries to a listserv designed to elicit information helpful to a representation will disclose information relating to the representation. In some situations, because of the nature of the lawyer’s
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 11:14</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">AM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>[E-trademarks] ABA ethics opinion on case hypotheticals on listservs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I received the below from another listservs I am on and thought it worth sharing to this group.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">“The ABA's opinions are only advisory, but since the latest ethics opinion is directly on point re: sharing hypothetical case information in listservs figured it was worth sharing.
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/ethics-opinions/aba-formal-opinion-511.pdf__;!!Nf401RNTQFE14GfWW3o!kBxh4z7UkjRsbDGrNiW1huleJIrSQ4RcTrUFIwNM7SideycWufwtVCVbHExnUtvma80VO9XdT-Ub_2_zM82B1jIuLvmM_T4$" target="_blank">
Opinion 511</a> was handed down today.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Here's the conclusion:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Rule 1.6 prohibits a lawyer from posting questions or comments relating to a representation to a listserv, even in hypothetical or abstract form, without the client’s informed consent if there is a reasonable
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listserv discussions such as those related to legal news, recent decisions, or changes in the law, without a client’s informed consent if the lawyer’s contributions will not disclose, or be reasonably likely to lead to the disclosure of, information relating
to a client representation.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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