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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 13, 2024 1:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Edward Timberlake <ed@timberlakelaw.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Trademarks without vowels<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">The same sound, appearance, meaning, overall commercial impression, etc. analysis will apply whether a mark has vowels or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">And Trademark Examining Attorneys will be accustomed to seeing such marks and searching for their phonetic equivalents, which means a likelihood of confusion refusal would be extremely likely in
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">You would of course be welcome to argue that the marks differ in appearance, but greater weight is often given to the sound of marks over their appearance. And you could argue that one of the marks
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 3:54<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Dale Quisenberry via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I feel like there has been some discussion about trademarks without vowels, but am not finding it.</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">An example is an application is filed on TMBLR</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 of any cases in this area?</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">C. Dale Quisenberry</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Quisenberry Law PLLC</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Houston, Texas 77069</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(832) 680.5000 (office)</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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