<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">I just need to say how much I <i>really </i>hate the current division between "recorded software" and "downloadable software." It seems so pointless. Those are not separate goods.  </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Cheers,</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"> </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt">Sam<span> Castree, III</span></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt"><span><i>Sam Castree Law, LLC</i></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>3421 W. Elm St.</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>McHenry, IL 60050</i></span></span></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0)"><span><span style="font-size:12pt"><i>(815) 344-6300</i></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></span><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 2:22 PM Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-1511032421955776487">
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<p class="MsoNormal">It really depends a lot on whether the second product fits within the description in the registration. For example, if your client is lucky enough to have a registration old enough that it’s for “software†as opposed to “downloadable software,â€
then the fact that the product is now a SaaS offering would not make a difference.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(15,23,46)">Kevin Grierson</span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:remialcxesans,serif;color:white">​</span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:template-5QSGLunPEem16QANOhMLNA,serif;color:white">​</span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:zone-1,serif;color:white">​</span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:zones-AQ,serif;color:white">​</span></b><b><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(15,23,46)"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:gray">Â Â <a href="tel:757-726-7799" target="_blank"><span style="color:gray;text-decoration:none">757-726-7799</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:gray">Â Â <a><span style="color:gray;text-decoration:none">866-521-5663</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:gray">Â Â <a href="mailto:kgrierson@cm.law" target="_blank"><span style="color:gray;text-decoration:none">kgrierson@cm.law</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Judith S via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 21, 2024 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carl Oppedahl <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Judith S <<a href="mailto:judith.a.s@gmail.com" target="_blank">judith.a.s@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Use in commerce<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:white">EXTERNAL EMAIL<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a small client that approached me about renewing their registered mark. However, since they obtained the mark their business has changed.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. They still make available replacement parts with the branding for the original product.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. They have an alternative product that they use the brand with, which is still within the goods description, but different from their original use. The alternative product is a sub-component of a different system which has separate branding.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would we be able to rely on just the first use (replacement parts)? The product is still described on their site, but not available for new purchasers. Just servicing existing customers.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would there be any issue if we used the second use, for a product which is different but falls within the same goods/services description?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd appreciate any insight.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Judith<u></u><u></u></p>
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