<div dir="ltr"><div>It's actually a physical product. </div><div><br></div><div>The original was a stand-alone product sold to end consumers. The new product is sold to businesses as part of a larger product package.</div><div><br></div><div>But I think it fits within the goods/services description. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I agree that the software distinction being made now is stupid, though.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Judith<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 12:20 PM Kevin Grierson <kgrierson@cm.law> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg6022012848494380576">
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<p class="MsoNormal">It really depends a lot on whether the second product fits within the description in the registration. For example, if your client is lucky enough to have a registration old enough that it’s for “software” as opposed to “downloadable software,”
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(15,23,46)">Kevin Grierson</span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:"remialcxesans",serif;color:white"></span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:"template-5QSGLunPEem16QANOhMLNA",serif;color:white"></span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:"zone-1",serif;color:white"></span></b><b><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:"zones-AQ",serif;color:white"></span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:rgb(15,23,46)"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Judith S via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 21, 2024 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carl Oppedahl <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Judith S <<a href="mailto:judith.a.s@gmail.com" target="_blank">judith.a.s@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Use in commerce<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a small client that approached me about renewing their registered mark. However, since they obtained the mark their business has changed.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. They still make available replacement parts with the branding for the original product.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. They have an alternative product that they use the brand with, which is still within the goods description, but different from their original use. The alternative product is a sub-component of a different system which has separate branding.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would we be able to rely on just the first use (replacement parts)? The product is still described on their site, but not available for new purchasers. Just servicing existing customers.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would there be any issue if we used the second use, for a product which is different but falls within the same goods/services description?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd appreciate any insight.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you!<u></u><u></u></p>
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