<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">To offer a slightly less pessimistic comment, I think that it's completely worth bringing up the fact that the prior examiner did not want a disclaimer. That's persuasive authority, I think. Unfortunately, as everyone else has said, it's not <i>binding</i>. But still worth mentioning. If nothing else, assuming that it's a non-final action, you have nothing to lose by making the argument.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Cheers,</span><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:tahoma;font-size:medium"><span style="font-family:"times new roman",serif"><span style="font-size:16px">--</span></span><span style="color:rgb(255,102,0);font-size:12pt;font-family:"times new roman",serif">Sam</span><br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 3:04 PM Simor Moskowitz via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg6049488100276528973">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Re-filed a previously approved ITU application, now refused?</font>
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<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Re-filed a previously approved ITU application, now refused?</span></p>
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<p>Hi all, I’m constructing arguments and can use some input (and case citations if you know ‘em)</p>
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<p>Applicant, through a previous attorney y filed an ITU application, and received a notice of allowance. Somehow Statement of Use and Specimens weren’t filed, so the app was abandoned.</p>
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<p>Client hired me to re-file the exact same application, this time on 1(a) basis, and the examining attorney has refused it and is requiring a disclaimer (which was NOT required in the now-abandoned version of the same mark) of one word
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<p>Client prefers NOT to disclaim, and has asked me to respond accordingly.</p>
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<p>Is there any merit to the argument that the applicant should be able to rely on the prior approval without the disclaimer requirement? </p>
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<p>It seems to me that administrative agencies should apply rules and laws consistently across identical scenarios… particularly when presented by the exact same applicant? Isn’t this a due-process thing? (I can’t find much to support
my thinking specifically with respect to the USPTO)</p>
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