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</span></b><span style="color:black">E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com> on behalf of Heather Balmat via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
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<b>Cc: </b>Heather Balmat <hbalmat@balmatlaw.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] [E-trademarks-L] Madrid description woes--USPTO won't suggest IB's proposed language from Notice of Irregularity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Heather Balmat <hbalmat@balmatlaw.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 5, 2024 9:46 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks-L] Madrid description woes--USPTO won't suggest IB's proposed language from Notice of Irregularity</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Resurrecting this thread, because I have encountered the same situation described in Kevin's email below. I'm hoping for confirmation that if I'm okay with the WIPO
Examiner's proposed changes, I can just not respond to the Notice of Irregularity and they will make those changes and things will progress accordingly..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The Notice of Irregularity only requests amendments to the ID, which I thought were acceptable. My reading of the Notice of Irregularity was that if I don't disagree,
I don't have to respond, and the mark will proceed to registration with the WIPO examiner's changes. I emailed the MPU to confirm, and they told me that, no, I DO have to respond, even to accept the changes. So, I did.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Now I get the Denial of Response to Irregularity from the MPU - they think that WIPO's suggested language of "hosting a web site" is outside the scope of the original
US description "providing a web site" and so are refusing to forward my response to the IB. So, my questions for you:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Is "hosting a web site" really outside the scope of "providing a web site?" Is it worth arguing this point with the MPU Trademark Specialist?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If I don't disagree with the WIPO Examiner's suggested changes, can I just not response and the mark will register with those changes?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">If it matters, some of the proposed changes involve moving services between classes; otherwise, it's just tweaking the wording. I have
also just received a first OA on the US application requiring amendments to the ID (but no movement between classes or new classes).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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of Pamela Chestek via E-trademarks <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:10 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Pamela Chestek <pamela@chesteklegal.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks-L] Madrid description woes--USPTO won't suggest IB's proposed language from Notice of Irregularity</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Perhaps have you amended the US ID already? I've had this happen twice, doing exactly the same thing, and the MPU was very helpful. The International application will reflect the ID as originally filed. So if
you cut and paste from what WIPO is asking, but in the meantime you have amended the US ID (probably to narrow it), then the USPTO will reject it as outside the scope of the current US ID. You have to take the US ID and make the amendments to it that WIPO
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
Chestek Legal<br>
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<a href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/11/2021 4:01 PM, Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:Gotham">Got an irregularity notice from the IB regarding a description of goods in an international application, with a suggestion for a revised description that appeared to me to be pretty much identical. So,
I cut and pasted the IB examiner\u2019s description into the response form and submitted it via TEAS.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:Gotham">Just got an office action from the PTO\u2019s MPU that the proposed revision \u201cexceeds the scope of goods . . . in the basic application.\u201d</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:Gotham">Tried to call the examining \u201ctrademark specialist,\u201d but her voice mail out of office message isn\u2019t encouraging, as it says \u201cHappy New Year\u201d and says she\u2019ll be returning in January of 2021.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><span style="font-family:Gotham">This is a new one on me\u2014the PTO won\u2019t let me make the change to the description that the IB wants. Anybody encountered this catch-22 before? In the alternative\u2014are the examining offices in the designated
countries really going to care if the IB attaches a statement that that the IB thinks the spec is too vague?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xxmsonormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#01265A"><a href="https://www.culhanemeadows.com/attorney/kevin-grierson/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#01265A;text-decoration:none">Kevin Grierson</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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