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<b>Reply-To: </b>Patentpractice Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, June 28, 2024 at 1:00 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Patentcenter Patentcenter <patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com>, Patentpractice Patentpractice <patentpractice@oppedahl-lists.com>, for trademark practitioners <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com>, IP-transactions Mail list <ip-transactions@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>David Boundy <DavidBoundyEsq@gmail.com>, Pete Sawicki <psawicki@wck.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Patentpractice] [Patentcenter] Chevron Has been overruled by the S.Ct.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whew, that was a long read.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I EMPHATICALLY disagree that "This decision is a start towards a more democratic government!!" There are things to be said on both sides, but that statement is pure ignorance. Justice Kagan sums it up -- "A rule of judicial humility gives
way to a rule of judicial hubris." Executive branch bureaucrats have some political accountability, and work from records that are thousands to hundreds of thousands of pages. Judges don't. (Yesterday, Justice Alito in
<i>Moyle</i> patted himself on the back for mastering a record of 1300 pages and a couple hours of oral argument. If an agency had made a major decision on such a thin record, it'd be arbitrary and capricious.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On balance, I think Justice Kagan looked more carefully at the statutory text and history, looked at a lot more of the practical consequences, thought more carefully, and exercised more judgment. Kagan notes how Chevron has narrowed since
its high-water mark in the late 1990s -- I agree, back then, it was a real problem. But it self-corrected. (Her explanation is darn close to my brief
<a href="https://ssrn.com/abstract=4520183" target="_blank">https://ssrn.com/abstract=4520183</a> ) I suggest reading her dissent (starting at page 82) first, then read the majority -- the majority's willful blindness is pretty apparent if you read Kagan first.
(I did it the conventional way, but I was deeply steeped in the case, so I could see my "magical thinking" flashers going off as I read Roberts. If you're not an administrative law expert, read Kagan first.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are two classes to whom <i>Loper Bright </i>will be genuinely beneficial.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">First, litigators. Justice Roberts has really underestimated the amount of uncertainty and re-litigation this is going to bring.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Second, patent and trademark lawyers. The Patent Office is a special case -- Congress gave the PTO and its senior executives motivations to cheat that don't apply to any other part of the executive branch. We need to remember that the
level of disrespect the PTO shows to the law is not pervasive throughout the government. No other agency has the same incentives to tell the law to go to hell.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A couple people have asked me whether I think this affects the
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 11:17 AM Pete Sawicki via Patentcenter <<a href="mailto:patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com">patentcenter@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> Dan Feigelson <<a href="mailto:djf@iliplaw.com" target="_blank">djf@iliplaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Patentcenter] [Patentpractice] Chevron Has been overruled by the S.Ct.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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