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<p>Hello Janice. Thank you for posting. I have just now raised
these issues to the Commissioner. You will soon see a listserv
posting on this.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/16/2024 10:40 AM, Janice Housey
via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I strongly
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura A. Genovese via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
laypersons to seek legal advice.
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"><e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Laura A. Genovese
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:charles.b.kramer@gmail.com">charles.b.kramer@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] Mark not examined in
over three years: OR Franz Kafka's Secret Trademark
Office<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Our
office has a case in the exact same situation – a 3+ year
old application blocking us and no examiner has yet been
assigned. I followed the same path you did with the same
result. Curious to know if anyone else knows why there are
ancient applications that still haven’t been assigned to an
examiner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles B. Kramer via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:23 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Charles B. Kramer <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Mark not examined in over
three years: OR Franz Kafka's Secret Trademark Office<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Trademark List,<br>
<br>
One of my client's applications is suspended pending the
resolution of a preexisting application.<br>
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Fair enough. HOWEVER:<br>
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1. When it is examined, the preexisting application almost
certainly will be refused registration. While my client's
current application is junior, it also has a senior
registration which gives it superior rights. It was on that
basis my client's application was suspended.<br>
<br>
2. I filed a Letter of Protest in the preexisting
application, informing the Trademark Office of my client's
senior registration. The Letter was accepted - causing a
notation in the record of the preexisting application.<br>
<br>
3. <b>The preexisting application was filed in May 2021 --
yes, over three years ago -- yet no Examiner has been
appointed!</b> The only notation in the public file since
then is the reference to my recently filed Letter of Protest
(the notation is addressed to the "Examiner:" followed by no
name).<br>
<br>
I wrote to <a
href="mailto:TrademarkAssistanceCenter@uspto.gov"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">TrademarkAssistanceCenter@uspto.gov</a>
about this, and got a long generic non-sequitur response,
explaining how "suspensions" work. As to the preexisting
application it only wrote: "we can't discuss any particular
application or registration with a third party."<br>
<br>
So, what, trademark applications can be ignored indefinitely
-- and for unexplained reasons? I did not make any ex-parte
statement about the preexisting application except to observe
it has not been examined, which is an objective fact, and a
problem for my client.<br>
<br>
The Trademark Examiner for my client's application (who
understands the preexisting application is likely to be
refused registration) suggested I write to
<a href="mailto:TMPolicy@uspto.gov" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">TMPolicy@uspto.gov</a> because
it can see the non-public aspects of the preexisting
application -- and she cannot.<br>
<br>
I do not mean to suggest anything nefarious is going on --
beyond system failure (things get lost). But (if I may be
forgiven for being a little grandiose) the fact there is a
world of secret trademark files -- who's secrecy prevents my
client from asserting its rights -- seems like a Due Process
violation. Or Administrative Procedure Act violation. Or
something. Halloooo Franz Kafka!<br>
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Any suggestions? <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
- Charles<br>
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