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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Same.  Got this from a successful letter of protest notification (just one mark submitted):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="fp-hard-ln-init" style="text-align:justify"><span class="fp-hard-ln-init1"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Please note for future submissions, if an objection in a letter of protest is based on a likelihood of confusion
 with existing federally registered marks or prior-pending applications, protestor need only submit the relevant registration or application serial numbers. Copies of protestor's registration certificates or the electronic equivalent thereof and their respective
 prosecution histories are not necessary.  <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="fp-hard-ln-init" style="text-align:justify"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think the paragraph in  1715.05(a) you reference is only talking about evidence of confusion where the goods and services are NOT identical: 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">If an objection is based on a likelihood of confusion with existing federally registered marks or prior-pending applications<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">,
 and the goods and/or services are not identical,</span> evidence of the relatedness of the goods and/or services must be included. Such evidence may include advertisements showing that the relevant goods/services are advertised together or sold by the same
 manufacturer or copies of registrations showing that such goods/services emanate from the same source. Note that a list of registration numbers, a chart containing the registration numbers and identified goods/services, or a copy of a search report is not
 proper evidence to show the relatedness of the goods or services in the registrations. Rather, copies of the registrations or the electronic equivalent thereof showing current status and title (i.e., printouts or electronic copies taken from the trademark
 search system or TSDR database of the USPTO) must be submitted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So I think the idea here is that if you’re going to submit evidence of relatedness of goods or services, you have to show that the third-party marks you’re using are use-based registrations and not 66(a) or
 44(e) registrations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Leesa N. Weiss via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 17, 2024 1:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Leesa N. Weiss <lweiss@esfip.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] Letters of Protest -- required evidence by the protesting party<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060">Am I missing something? I recently filed several Letter of Protests (which, ultimately, were accepted with the evidence being forwarded to the respective examiners). The Letters of
 Protest were all based on likelihood of confusion issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060">TMEP Section 1715.05(a) states:  “<span style="background:white">Note that a list of registration numbers, a chart containing the registration numbers and identified goods/services,
 or a copy of a search report is not proper evidence to show the relatedness of the goods or services in the registrations. Rather, copies of the registrations or the electronic equivalent thereof showing current status and title (i.e., printouts or electronic
 copies taken from the trademark search system or TSDR database of the USPTO) must be submitted.</span>” So, I’ve submitted TSDR printouts of the client’s (protestor’s) registrations (no more than 5 registrations), along with the required index. I did not submit
 copies of the actual Certificates of Registration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="fp-hard-ln-init" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060">The notifications from the PTO advising that the Letter of Protest has been accepted now state:  “In addition, copies of the protestor’s
 own registration certificates or the electronic equivalent thereof are not necessary.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060">The TMEP appears to be telling me one thing, while the Attorney Advisor issuing the notification is telling me something else. Which is correct? If I don’t have to go through the exercise
 of downloading copies of the client’s registrations as supporting evidence, that would be a great timesaver.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060">Thanks, in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060">Leesa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#4D4D4D">Leesa N. Weiss</span></strong><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#4D4D4D"><br>
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