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    That doesn't explain why you can't do both.<br>
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    Pam<br>
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    <div class="moz-signature">Pamela S. Chestek<br>
      Chestek Legal<br>
      300 Fayetteville Street<br>
      Unit 2492<br>
      Raleigh, NC 27602<br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pamela@chesteklegal.com">pamela@chesteklegal.com</a><br>
      (919) 800-8033<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/2024 10:52 AM, Robert Reynolds
      via E-trademarks wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Afternoon,
            all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">               
            Had a very brief video conference with someone from the
            UI/UX team at the USPTO about some proposed upcoming changes
            to the new TMsearch tool. The programmer noted that the push
            to make things accessible to mobile users and to
            unrepresented or pro se users was a direct order from the
            White House.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">               
            So, unfortunately, it doesn\u2019t look like the push will be
            going away anytime soon.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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              Reynolds</span></b><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Senior
              Counsel</span></b><span
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              &amp;
              <span style="color:#C00000">Rozenblat</span><span
                style="color:#1F497D"> </span>IP
            </span></b><b><span style="mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">LLP</span></b><span
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            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">2045
            W. Grand Ave, Ste B PMB 84396<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            Illinois 60612<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">direct
            773.770-2554  fax 773.570.3328<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                E-trademarks
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">&lt;e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tara Aaron-Stelluto via
                E-trademarks<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 17, 2024 11:19 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for
                laypersons to seek legal advice.
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">&lt;e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Tara Aaron-Stelluto
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tstelluto@bartonesq.com">&lt;tstelluto@bartonesq.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks] [EXT] Re: Trademark
                Center is coming soon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Okay, I take
            it all back. The drafts don\u2019t seem to be available anymore
            once you log off. Stay away from Beta. I gotta go re-do an
            application from scratch now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
                    style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                  </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">E-trademarks
                  &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                  on behalf of Tara Aaron-Stelluto via E-trademarks &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 6:39</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PM<br>
                  <b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is not
                  for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Cc: </b>Tara Aaron-Stelluto &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:tstelluto@bartonesq.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tstelluto@bartonesq.com</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] [EXT] Re:
                  Trademark Center is coming soon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Just
                  bouncing on to this thread to say that I
                  (accidentally) tried the beta system today. The save
                  draft at the bottom of the screen as you go through
                  the application is actually nice, as well as the
                  ability to import your contact information from
                  MYUSPTO. The frustrating parts I see so far is that
                  there seems to be only one Address line, so the firm
                  name and the address have to on the same line, and
                  also if you make a typo in the first use date as I
                  did, you apparently have to exit out and go back to
                  the draft before you can fix it. Other than that, I
                  agree with everyone who said that this is clearly set
                  up for non-represented applicants and there is too
                  much noise for experienced filers, but there are
                  certainly a few benefits such as importing the address
                  that it would be nice to see added into the legacy
                  system.
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style="line-height:10.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#024582">Tara Aaron\u2011Stelluto</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:1.0pt;font-family:&quot;remialcxesans&quot;,serif;color:white">\u200b</span></b><b><span
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#024582"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001">611 Commerce Street, Suite 2911<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.0pt"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001">37203<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.0pt"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001">Tel: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.0pt"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001"><a
                                                          href=""
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#000001;text-decoration:none">615-340-6790</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.0pt"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001">Direct Dial: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001"><a
href="tel:615-899-4501" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#000001;text-decoration:none">615-899-4501</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.0pt"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001"><a
href="mailto:tstelluto@bartonesq.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#3D6ADE">tstelluto@bartonesq.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001"> | <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.0pt"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#3D6ADE"><a
href="http://www.bartonesq.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#3D6ADE">www.bartonesq.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001"> | <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:10.0pt"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#3D6ADE"><a
href="https://www.bartonesq.com/attorney/tara-aaron-stelluto"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#3D6ADE">bio</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001"> | <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#000001"><a
href="https://www.bartonesq.com/vcard?id=4210" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#3D6ADE">vcard</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="width:3.125in;height:1.0416in" id="Picture_x0020_4"
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
                        </span></b><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">E-trademarks
                        &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                        on behalf of Trademarks Admin via E-trademarks
                        &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 9:25</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">\u202f</span><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PM<br>
                        <b>To: </b>For trademark practitioners. This is
                        not for laypersons to seek legal advice. &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Cc: </b>Trademarks Admin &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:trademarks@olinerlaw.com"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">trademarks@olinerlaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Subject: </b>Re: [E-trademarks] [EXT] Re:
                        Trademark Center is coming soon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Just tried out the
                          new beta system. As a paralegal, it is
                          atrocious in my opinion. First of all, it does
                          appear to cater to novice filers which is
                          totally counter to the requirement that all
                          applications be handled by US attorneys. IT
                          requires you to manually go through multiple
                          screens and opt out of extra statements
                          instead of just allowing you to opt in to
                          extra stuff if you might need (translations,
                          geographic significance, disclaimers, etc). It
                          is not easy to tab through and add prefilled
                          information from your browser's memory like it
                          does currently. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">In the attorney's
                          section if you try to import the data of the
                          account to save some labor and you are a
                          paralegal, it will fill in the paralegal's
                          information so that feature is basically
                          useless for anybody other than attorneys
                          preparing trademark applications. I don't see
                          that you can copy drafts and replicate for a
                          new filing like you can in the assignment
                          center so there does not appear to be ways to
                          set up templates to avoid having to fill in
                          repetitive information. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">The worst part in my
                          opinion is the section where you select TEAS
                          PLUS ID of goods/services it basically has the
                          options in a tiny scrolling screen with 10 or
                          so options and makes you click next to find
                          your selection instead of being to browse a
                          large selection of options and click
                          checkboxes for the applicable ones.
                        </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Not having the obj.
                          file save option is also unforgiveable given
                          that it appears the links will only be valid
                          for 60 days.
                        </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Any USPTO lurkers
                          here, please do not force us to use Beta. The
                          current TEAS system layout and functionality
                          is far superior to this system. There are a
                          few things that would actually improve our
                          experience such as being able to set up
                          templates for frequent clients and have it
                          auto-fill in the attorney information and all
                          of these things I think could be implemented
                          easily without having to revamp the entire
                          platform. None of these improvements were
                          included, and the functionality is vastly
                          worse. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">Also, as an active
                          Patent Center user I can attest to what a
                          disaster it has been and don't have high hopes
                          for this Beta system getting any better. I
                          really hope this system doesn't replace the
                          old one anytime soon. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Trademark
                                  Paralegal
                                </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          style="font-size:12.0pt">On Thu, Jul 4, 2024
                          at 8:37</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">\u202f</span><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt">PM Alex Butterman via
                          E-trademarks &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I
                                saw that feature in the trial, but it
                                was not operational for us. 
                              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Alex
                                    Butterman</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Partner<b>                  
                                  </b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#37428A">DUNLAP </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#616A73">BENNETT </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#37428A">&amp;
                                    LUDWIG</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><i><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">211
                                    Church St., SE; Leesburg, VA 20175</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">T:
                                  703-777-7319</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#156082">
                                  \u2013
                                </span><span
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                                    E-trademarks &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Janice Housey
                                    via E-trademarks<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 4, 2024
                                    3:31 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> For trademark
                                    practitioners. This is not for
                                    laypersons to seek legal advice.
                                    &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;;
                                    Montgomery, Alexander P. &lt;<a
href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b> Janice Housey &lt;<a
href="mailto:jhousey@litmuslaw.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jhousey@litmuslaw.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks]
                                    [EXT] Re: Trademark Center is coming
                                    soon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul\u2014</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="font-size:11.0pt">Do you know if
                                the drafts of people you \u201csponsor\u201d
                                 (i.e., your staff) are also available
                                at your account?  If so\u2014sounds like an
                                improvement.  If not, sounds even less
                                useful?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      lang="DE">Janice Housey</span></i></b><span
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                                style="background:white"><span
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                                style="background:white"><span
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                                  lang="DE">Winchester, Virginia 22601</span><span
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                                    E-trademarks &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Supnik via
                                    E-trademarks<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 4, 2024
                                    2:15 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> For trademark
                                    practitioners. This is not for
                                    laypersons to seek legal advice.
                                    &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;;
                                    Montgomery, Alexander P. &lt;<a
href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b> Paul Supnik &lt;<a
                                      href="mailto:paul@supnik.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">paul@supnik.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks]
                                    [EXT] Re: Trademark Center is coming
                                    soon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:11.0pt">Actually, the
                                lack of being able to save an .obj file
                                is not an issue with the Trademark
                                Center Beta.  If you go to the Trademark
                                Center home page, there are 4 tabs at
                                the top.  The third tab is \u201cDrafts and
                                docket\u201d where you can find your
                                applications where you left off. 
                                Frankly, it is a lot easier than saving
                                a download of the .obj file (and
                                remembering always to do so) and then
                                trying to find the downloaded .obj file
                                you saved.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                                    E-trademarks &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Butterman
                                    via E-trademarks<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2024
                                    1:37 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> Montgomery, Alexander P.
                                    &lt;<a
href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</a>&gt;;
                                    For trademark practitioners. This is
                                    not for laypersons to seek legal
                                    advice. &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b> Alex Butterman &lt;<a
href="mailto:abutterman@dbllawyers.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">abutterman@dbllawyers.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks]
                                    [EXT] Re: Trademark Center is coming
                                    soon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">That
                                is correct, at least how we tested it.
                                They did have our attorney and law firm
                                information saved for easy reproduction
                                in a new application and I thought they
                                might be permitting templates to be set
                                up but I didn\u2019t experience that with the
                                beta test.
                              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">Actually,
                                when I first got into the beta test, the
                                form was limited to just preparing an
                                ITU TEAS+ equivalent (needing to use ID
                                Manual IDs). They expanded the
                                application options later on to include
                                1a and Section 44 applications but, like
                                Miriam, I was already frustrated with
                                the slowness of the application, needing
                                to read through a lot of explanatory
                                material, combined with the inability to
                                save and retrieve a draft application so
                                I never tested the more capable forms. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I
                                did a 1:1 telephone focus group call
                                with the later version of the form and
                                that allowed the explanatory material to
                                be hidden but the form was still spread
                                out across a lot of screens. The print
                                was very large too so I guess it could
                                be targeted to more senior people. I\u2019m
                                not recalling other aspects of the
                                process that stood out to me.
                              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Alex
                                    Butterman</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Partner<b>                  
                                  </b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#37428A">DUNLAP </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#616A73">BENNETT </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#37428A">&amp;
                                    LUDWIG</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><i><span
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                                    Church St., SE; Leesburg, VA 20175</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                                    Montgomery, Alexander P. &lt;<a
href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</a>&gt;
                                    <br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2024
                                    4:07 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> For trademark
                                    practitioners. This is not for
                                    laypersons to seek legal advice.
                                    &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b> Alex Butterman &lt;<a
href="mailto:abutterman@dbllawyers.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">abutterman@dbllawyers.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> RE: [E-trademarks]
                                    [EXT] Re: Trademark Center is coming
                                    soon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                you mean there\u2019s no option to save an
                                .obj file? If so, that\u2019s a huge
                                oversight and massive inconvenience.
                              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    moz-do-not-send="true"><b><span
style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:#777779;text-decoration:none">Alexander
                                        P. Montgomery</span></b><span
style="color:#777779;text-decoration:none"> </span>
                                  </a><br>
                                </span><i><span
style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:#777779">Partner</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:#777779;text-decoration:none">Hinckley
                                      Allen</span><span
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                                </span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:#777779">28
                                  State Street<br>
                                  Boston, MA 02109-1775 <br>
                                  p: 617-378-4366</span><span
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style="font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:#777779"> f:
                                  617-345-9020<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a
href="mailto:amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:#777779;text-decoration:none">amontgomery@hinckleyallen.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                                    E-trademarks &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Butterman
                                    via E-trademarks<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2024
                                    4:01 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> For trademark
                                    practitioners. This is not for
                                    laypersons to seek legal advice.
                                    &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b> Alex Butterman &lt;<a
href="mailto:abutterman@dbllawyers.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">abutterman@dbllawyers.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [E-trademarks]
                                    [EXT] Re: Trademark Center is coming
                                    soon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0E2841">I
                                volunteered to be a beta tester of it.
                                As I recall, I was not very impressed
                                with it as a practitioner because the
                                new application form seemed targeted to
                                non-attorneys with too much explanatory
                                material and pretty much only one
                                section per screen. The biggest drawback
                                that stopped me from using it was that
                                there is no option to save the data one
                                inputs and go back to it later or to
                                have a paralegal draft the application
                                and share the draft with me. .</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Alex
                                    Butterman</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Partner<b>                  
                                  </b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#37428A">DUNLAP </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#616A73">BENNETT </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Avenir Next&quot;;color:#37428A">&amp;
                                    LUDWIG</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="margin-bottom:3.0pt"><i><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">211
                                    Church St., SE; Leesburg, VA 20175</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">T:
                                  703-777-7319</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#156082">
                                  \u2013
                                </span><span
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href="https://www.dbllawyers.com/attorney/alex-butterman/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"><b><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">BIO</span></b></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                                    E-trademarks &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carl Oppedahl
                                    via E-trademarks<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 20, 2024
                                    4:27 AM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> For trademark
                                    practitioners. This is not for
                                    laypersons to seek legal advice.
                                    &lt;<a
href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b> Carl Oppedahl &lt;<a
                                      href="mailto:carl@oppedahl.com"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">carl@oppedahl.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re:
                                    [E-trademarks] Trademark Center is
                                    coming soon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p>Oh and by the way, maybe I missed it, but
                              I do not recall having seen even a hint or
                              suggestion of the Commissioner asking the
                              membership of our listserv what, if
                              anything, we think is broken in TEAS that
                              needs to be fixed in this new TC, nor do I
                              recall having seen even a hint or
                              suggestion of the Commissioner asking the
                              membership of our listserv what new
                              features, if any, we wished to see added
                              in this new TC.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p>See <a
href="https://blog.oppedahl.com/commissioner-for-trademarks-responds-to-the-fifty-four-trademark-practitioners/"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">
https://blog.oppedahl.com/commissioner-for-trademarks-responds-to-the-fifty-four-trademark-practitioners/</a>
                              in which Fifty-Four Trademark
                              Practitioners wrote to Commissioner Gooder
                              on August 7, 2021 asking for some
                              improvements in TEAS, particularly in the
                              area of character-count limitations in
                              various fields.  In October of 2021,
                              Commissioner Gooder promised that we would
                              get all of our "asks" from that letter. 
                              When the beta version gets released, I am
                              confident it will turn out that
                              Commissioner Gooder will have kept that
                              promise.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.0pt">On 6/20/2024
                                  1:43 AM, Carl Oppedahl via
                                  E-trademarks wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                              <p>Here is what popped up just now as I
                                tried to prepare a new US trademark
                                application:<o:p></o:p></p>
                              <blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                <p>Trademark Center is coming soon<br>
                                  We\u2019ve been working on Trademark
                                  Center, a new system designed to
                                  improve your filing experience. This
                                  summer, you\u2019ll be able to use the beta
                                  version of Trademark Center to apply
                                  to register your trademark.   <br>
                                  <br>
                                  You\u2019ll have the option to apply to
                                  register your trademark in either
                                  Trademark Center or the Trademark
                                  Electronic Application System (TEAS)
                                  for six months. The cost to file
                                  remains the same in both systems.
                                  <o:p></o:p></p>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p>Given the disasters of Patent Center
                                and Assignment Center, I feel that I can
                                predict with very high confidence that
                                this new "Trademark Center" will
                                likewise be a disaster.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  This email was originated outside of Barton LLP. <br>
                  <br>
                  Barton LLP puts security of the firm at a high
                  priority. Therefore, we have put efforts into ensuring
                  that this message is error and virus-free.
                  Unfortunately, full security of the email cannot be
                  ensured as, despite our efforts, the data included in
                  emails could be infected, intercepted, or corrupted.
                  Therefore, we ask that you vigilantly check emails for
                  correct email addresses, and to check with IT if you
                  are unsure about an attachment. The recipient of this
                  email is responsible for reviewing its content and
                  sender to protect Barton LLP from any possible
                  security threat.</span></b><span style="color:tomato"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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