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In a message dated 9/27/2024 4:58:49 PM Central Daylight Time, ed@timberlakelaw.com writes:
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 5:11 PM Miriam Richter, Esq. via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" shape="rect" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Over the past year, I have gotten the feeling that because of the “newness” of so many examiners, they are sticking to the rules and acting like there is no room for discussion – it’s like someone put the fear of god into them if they diverge even an inch!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: serif; color: black;">Miriam Richter, Attorney at Law, P.L.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com" shape="rect" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks<br clear="none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, September 27, 2024 2:56 PM<br clear="none"><strong>To:</strong> Jessica R. Friedman via E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com" shape="rect" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a>><br clear="none"><strong>Cc:</strong> Janet Satterthwaite <<a href="mailto:jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com" shape="rect" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">jsatterthwaite@potomaclaw.com</a>><br clear="none"><strong>Subject:</strong> [E-trademarks] Examiner refusing to discuss revised ID!</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">I think this is the fist time this has happened to me.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">I got a pretty dumb ID refusal from an Examiner. I responded, and he went final on me.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">His refusal is still pretty dumb,  but I sent him an email with a proposed revision for us to discuss.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">He refuses to discuss and wants me to file my official response. I said it was customary and he said it's not required.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Are they on some kind of work-to-rule strike?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">I escalated to the Managing Attorneys for help. It is ridiculous to make me file an appeal brief on an ID issue where I still don't know what he wants.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Grrr.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">thanks</span></p>
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