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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> Kevin Grierson <kgrierson@cm.law>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 30, 2024 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> James E. Lake <jel@randalldanskin.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: TM search bar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri \(Body\)";color:#0F172E">Please note: Culhane Meadows is now CM Law<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none"> E-trademarks <<a href="mailto:e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks-bounces@oppedahl-lists.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James E. Lake via E-trademarks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 30, 2024 7:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com">e-trademarks@oppedahl-lists.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> James E. Lake <<a href="mailto:jel@randalldanskin.com">jel@randalldanskin.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [E-trademarks] TM search bar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am new to this group, so this topic may have already been addressed.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone else noticed the \u201candnot\u201d Boolean operator at <a href="https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-information">
https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-information</a> appears to be programmed incorrectly? Per
<a href="https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/help">https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/help</a>, \u201cUse AND NOT if results must satisfy the first search term but not the second. For example, CM:*USPTO* AND NOT DC:* retrieves marks where the literal element of the mark includes
USPTO and there are no design search codes.\u201d However, it does not always work that way.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the search query <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">AT: "john smith"~3 <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I get 1,402 results. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For the narrowed search query <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">AT: "john smith"~3 andnot AT: hill<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I get 27,181 results. Something seems very wrong here. As I understand it, the second search must necessarily yield the same or fewer results.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I use the \u201cand not\u201d (with a space) operator from the USPTO instructions, instead of the more typical \u201candnot\u201d (no space) operator, then I get over 9,000,000 results!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">James Lake<o:p></o:p></p>
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